America - "land of the free"

[Luke]

It pisses me off when America refer to themselves as the 'land of the free'. It's b******s. I was watching a film today in my Citizenship lesson called 'If these wall could talk'. There are three different stories in the same house in different eras. The first in the 50's, then the 70's and then the 90's. It's about abortion and peoples feelings towards it. Apparentley, it was banned in America. Why though? Shouldn't an American, as a so called free person, be able to wath this film if he/she wanted to do so? It's a load of s**t that it's banned. It's a very good, interesting film and can't believe it was banned in the so called "land of the free".

[CraigYohn!]

"land of the babes" Duke Nukem <3

[Patriot1776]

It isn't ban in America.

I've seen the movie on TV before.

And I've seen the movie on video store shelves

[Tim]

i h8 all the c**p about 3 speech and "the american dream" its all a load of s**t

[Patriot1776]

If you lived here you would understand what we mean by that.

[Luke]

It isn't ban in America.

I've seen the movie on TV before.

And I've seen the movie on video store shelves

It is banned. It was banned after some of the actors/actresses received death threats.

[Patriot1776]

It isn't ban.

I've seen it on video store shelves very recently

If you still don't believe me, look towards the bottem of this page.

(This site is operated within the United Kingdom)

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0116607/

Here's the American version of this site.

http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0116607/

Where exactly did you hear this story?

[Luke]

My teacher told me today at school. Was it banned temporarily?

[Patriot1776]

Not that I know of.

It might not have been "ban", but the studio probably chose not to release it. No one says they can't show it, but sometimes the studio refuses to release a film for certain reasons.

But actors/actresses receive death threats all the time. If the studio chose not to release the film it was probably for a different reason.

[Luke]

And what are your views on abortion?

[Patriot1776]

I am against it.

This, however, is more of a religious thing than a political thing in my case.

As I Catholic I believe that the baby becomes life right at conception, so therefore abortion is simply killing the child.

If murder is illegal, why not abortion?

However, a politician can't use his religious views to affect government decisions. Even though religion says that life begins at conception, science has numerous different theories as to when "life" begins.

[~Wayne~]

Most lands are 'free' America no different from Uk in most aspects

[Luke]

Abortion should be legal. What if a 14 year old girl got pregnant? Her life would be ruined.

What about rape?

What if a woman doesn't want a baby so when she is made to have it she neglects/abuses it?

[~Wayne~]

I agree with you fcuk4forest

[Pearson]

Abortion should be legal. What if a 14 year old girl got pregnant? Her life would be ruined.

What about rape?

What if a woman doesn't want a baby so when she is made to have it she neglects/abuses it?

Totally agree, however in partriots case its his religious beliefs. Buts its not too likely patriots going to get an abortion and if patriot doesnt have sex before marriage im sure any accident wont effect him too much. America has just as much free speech as the Uk. One thing I dont understand about free speach is if you have racist views and say them and get done for them then this would not be free speach. Im not saying racism should be aloud, I just wonder how that works.

[Brianna.]

It was probably banned because our country is being run by a bunch of conservitave douchebags who are so stuck in their ways that they don't give a fuck.

I'm a strong liberal, and I'm completely pro-choice. If the woman wants it, then let her have it. Don't give me that 'she's murdering an innocent baaaaaby' bulls**t. If you were in the same position you'd do it. You'll deny it now, but it's true.


America is not the land of the free. We're the same as any other country. Our government has a complex. They like to believe that America is the greatest country in the world. They want the power.

I f*****g hate it. America is nothing but a power hungry oil fuled megalomaniac society that needs to have it's ass checked.


I'm embarassed to call myself American at this time.

[IceBurn3000]

This thread is apparantly about America being the land of the free... Take the topic of abortion to its own thread please.

[Luke]

This thread is apparantly about America being the land of the free... Take the topic of abortion to its own thread please.

If you think about it, it's kind of linked.

[Pearson]

This thread is apparantly about America being the land of the free... Take the topic of abortion to its own thread please.

Who the fuck are you?! your a moderator? what the fuck!

[pakstar]

lol hes not a mod!! hes a super mod!!!

[Morazain]

Either way I just wish the land of the free could become the land of the quiet its time for you tone it down SHHHHHHHHH!

Besides everyone knows that USA is gonna kill us all.

Have you seen the recent fuel consumption statistic for the average american they use 60 times than some in israel does. It would seem your goverment spits out lies and is rapping the world of it's resources.

Anyone disagree (ofcoarse some one will)

[pakstar]

i dont disagree

[turboboust]

americans take freedom for granted i live in a group home and i have no freedoms the olny time i get to do any thing is when im at school i can say americans take their freedoms for granted because i know i did when i was able to go off and party i ran away from the group home on friday night and when i did the olny people who were willing to help me were the mexicans who r here in the us illegally they gave me rides to where i needed to go and they gave me food and {beer think god} but my best friend who is a PROUD AMERICAN refused to help me his daughter had to hide me in her room till he found out and when he did he helped me by letting me spend the night but when the next day rolls around he kicks me out because i have a very abusive drug addict mother who showed up cause he called her and told her i was their so when she shows up and i beat the fuck outta her he kicks me out americans suck cause their to affraid to save their own ass than to help a fellow american i mean why would a soldier risk his life on a battlefeild but not pick up a 15 yearold kid who is hitchhikeing its fucked up TO HELL WITH AMERICA AND TO HELL WITH AMERICAN VALUES AMERICA SUCKS IT IS NO WHERE NEAR WHATS ITS CRACKED UP TO BE FUCK AMERICA
BUT I STILL LOVE IT FOR WHAT IT USED TO STAND FOR BEFORE ALL THIS BURACRATIC REDTAPE BULLSHIT STARTED GETTING IN MY FUCKING WAY

[Boy_Wonder06]

Please continue your debate with the topic that is supposed to be in hand ie 'american and the freedom of speech'!

Feel free to start a new topi con abortion if you wish!

thank you

PS i know all teenagers swear, i do it too, but could you please moderate your language or atleast replace some of the letters with *'s. CHEERS

[Luke]

Either way I just wish the land of the free could become the land of the quiet its time for you tone it down SHHHHHHHHH!

Besides everyone knows that USA is gonna kill us all.

Have you seen the recent fuel consumption statistic for the average american they use 60 times than some in israel does. It would seem your goverment spits out lies and is rapping the world of it's resources.

Anyone disagree (ofcoarse some one will)

You talkin to me? If so, i'm not bloody American!

[Morazain]

Hmmm not sure

[Brianna.]

Now, one thing you're missing, Morazain, is that alot of the American people don't have say in what goes on. Our government is what's making us out to all be assholes.

About the fuel thing...Yes. We like our cars. We own 4...so yeah. BUT, for your information..We've had the technology to have fuel efficiant cars, but the GOVERNMENT hasn't acted on it/cut the funding for it/kept it underwraps till just recently.

Not all of the American people are bad...just our government.

[NeEdLeZ]

More like land of the rich!
HAH!

[.:0NE_l0VE.:]

I agree with everything Patriot1776 said.
&& I'm American and proud.
Woudn't change it for thee worldd.

[t-junction]

To quote rage, although perhaps someone else already has (I haven't read all the posts)

America!? Land of the free!? Whoever told you that is your ENEMY!

[t-junction]

'We own 4...so yeah. BUT, for your information..We've had the technology to have fuel efficiant cars, but the GOVERNMENT hasn't acted on it/cut the funding for it/kept it underwraps till just recently.'

That is the crappest excuse I have ever heard. There is no need to have four cars, none at all. And you have the audacity to blame this on the government. FFS, if you really cared about the environment you would stop driving around your four cars, not use the government as a scapegoat. It's because of people relying too heavily on cars and petrol that new, cleaner, technology is being stifled.

[Brianna.]

Woah there, sparky.

We own four cars because of where I live. I live in the Rocky Mountains....30 miles from the closest town. We don't drive them all at the same time. We conserve.

I have to drive into town and back home again EVERY DAY. Don't lecture me about "conserving gas" and that bullshit...I do that. We need them to function. Everyone in my family goes a different direction, so we can't exactly carpool. We do when we can, but usually we can't.

We're planning on purchasing a hybred car in the near future, but they're not practical for the mountains quite yet.

[pakstar]

i like them water running cars