Internet Relationships

[Nosferatu]

I'm quite curious as to what people's thoughts on people loving each other over the 'net.. and I'd rather than this become a discussion topic, would rather it be a debate, ergo, it being posted in the Debate Forum. ;)

I, personally, believe it can blossom anywhere, and yes, that also means over the Internet. I've witnessed it blossoming on the 'net with someone I know, and I know someone else who's on the verge of taking a walk on the web-side of love. No, I'm not talking about those where you can go meet them, and see them, because they are on the same continent; I'm talking about those that are seriously long-didstance. At least the length of the Atlantic Ocean.

I'm not joking. It does, and has happened.

The question is; Do you believe in Internet Relationships? Please be sure to state your reasons as to why you chose your answer, as well. It wouldn't be a debate, if you didn't. ;)

Discuss...

[Luke]

No.

Pathetic.

[Nosferatu]

Care to add emphasis to your answer, fcuk4forest? Your answer is very vague.. Just calling it pathetic isn't really the constructive kind of responce to this, as I would have liked. Bear in mind I'm actually looking to make a discussion out of this, rather than your simple, spammy responce of "No. Its pathetic."

[Luke]

I wasn't spamming. It's what I truly believe.

[Nosferatu]

I understand that it is what you believe, however, your post is, indeed, spammy for a debate section. I understand that you truly believe that it is pathetic, and I wouldn't mind, were this posted, elsewhere, how you posted, however, I posted in the Debate Forum to get more constructive answers than what you just gave. Forgive me if that seemed like a farfetched request..

[~Wayne~]

I don't believe long distance relationships can work whatever anyone says to be honest.
P.s Can you dull down the font its really hard to read

[Bob!]

Id say as youve really got to know the mind of each other, and you CAN physically see each other often enough, or there is at least hope of being able to do that in the near future, it can be done. Just takes dedication from both sides.

Though if theres no hope of physical contact at all, and especially if its an overseas thing, I dont really think that has a chance of working lol.

[Boy_Wonder06]

No offence but no one can discuss this type of thing withotu first hand experience, i personally have dated someone from America, and i dated them for 4 long months, and then things got so good, they came over with there family for other reasons and we ended up even better off, so in my eyes long distance relationships can work if your prepared to make them work. Im not jokin its dam hard and sometimes you think its all a waste of time but it realli isnt. thats my argument :D

[lilsawa2oo6]

i jus wanna say it can work and does work, ive had distant/internet relationships before.. mah last one was with a guy from scotland (thats as distant as it got) but we stayed together at least 4/5 months before deciding to end it.. and during that time hed fone me every night... like others have said, you both have to be willing to put in the effort !!

[Kaiser]

I think love can certainly happen, as a given, but in most cases it isn't feasible that a relationship would work, especially if it would be difficult to arrange visits.

[Bob!]

Aye if its goin to work at all then id say ya at least need a few physical visits as much as possible, and other contact be maintained almost constantly such as text and voice.

I wouldnt believe in a relationship where ya NEVER saw each other but, if ya just a bit far away and as long as theres hope of being able to be finally be with each other forever than it could work, with a lotta dedication.

[Boy_Wonder06]

it all depends on the relationship u have goin, if ur strong enough then u can do it, and no offence it dont take much to arrange a visit, all u need to do is check train times and prices or buses etc, its so easy ive dun it many a time. ive travelled all the way to london, nottingham!

[Nosferatu]

To define strong, distant relationships, I can tell you that someone I know has been in one for over 15 months, and its still going strong. In the end, if the relationship doesn't contain any physical contact, or meeting, then a great level of love and caring is needed, between the two.

[Pearson]

For an internet relationship, I think relations could come of it, but I dont think you could have a proper relationship without physical contact. Using the internet as a meeting place I think is fine, but dating someone you wont meet doesnt seem ideal to me.

I dont think I could do a long distance relationship, mind you, you can never say never really.

[Hevz]

I agree with pearson n the other ppl tht av sed bout avin 2 have sum sort of physical contact bcos i think in some ways u can't love sum1 u have never seen or at least i wud find it very hard. U r in love with an idea of them. however i do think u can have a long distant relationship but it wud take a lot of dedication and trust in the other person.

[Stephanie]

I highly doubt it would be possible to have a good "meaningful" relationship with someone who you never see. Now I know that sex isn't everything in a relationship, heck I personally don't think it even rates highly, but I do believe there would need to be some kind of physical contact, whether it be just kissing or hugging. You just need that physicality there. I find that it really gives you a feel of closeness, trust and safety which are all important aspects in a good relationship.

And besides, you could never be entirely sure if your partner was being faithful to you and you can never really know who they really are. Who knows? They could be some 50 year old virgin who lives in their parents basement and they actually told you that they are a very successful 30 year old lawyer or whatever. They could also be married with kids or be a kid themself. You never know.

[~Wayne~]

I still agree it is ok to meet someone on the internet but whats the huge problem with going out and finding someone?

[Pearson]

I still agree it is ok to meet someone on the internet but whats the huge problem with going out and finding someone?

Some people find it hard to chat up women in real life, I do, I know a lot of people that do. Its a lot easier to talk to someone over the internet than it is to there face.

[ib0b]

It seems awkward to think this, but:
Meeting someone on-line could be sometimes better than in real life.

Haven't you ever saw someone that appears sexually appealing and approached them to be their friend? Maybe the relationship would start a bit misdirected because you are more likely to want things besides a true friendship and knowing and loving someone for who they, besides the way their body is, are.

If you meet someone on-line, you may have a better relationship when you just be with them because you started the relatioship based on what you are thinking and feeling rather than what the persons presense is like (the way they look and sound).

It is always better to have a relationship in person though.

[bumbledore]

It seems awkward to think this, but:
Meeting someone on-line could be sometimes better than in real life.

Haven't you ever saw someone that appears sexually appealing and approached them to be their friend? Maybe the relationship would start a bit misdirected because you are more likely to want things besides a true friendship and knowing and loving someone for who they, besides the way their body is, are.

If you meet someone on-line, you may have a better relationship when you just be with them because you started the relatioship based on what you are thinking and feeling rather than what the persons presense is like (the way they look and sound).

It is always better to have a relationship in person though.
I agree for the most part.
Still, I think an internet relationship would be way too complicated for my taste

[Dani_x]

Id say as youve really got to know the mind of each other, and you CAN physically see each other often enough, or there is at least hope of being able to do that in the near future, it can be done. Just takes dedication from both sides.

Though if theres no hope of physical contact at all, and especially if its an overseas thing, I dont really think that has a chance of working lol.

:agree:
whats the point if your never going 2see them in person

[mandude]

For an internet relationship, I think relations could come of it, but I dont think you could have a proper relationship without physical contact. Using the internet as a meeting place I think is fine, but dating someone you wont meet doesnt seem ideal to me.

I dont think I could do a long distance relationship, mind you, you can never say never really.
:agree:

[Dead Pie]

Well, it does give you more freedom to go around and fuck other people, without your "net lover" knowing.

[ib0b]

I have had (not to say that I do or do not right now,) great relationships with people I meet with text (like we, posting on the message boards, are doing now :P . I like meeting people in all sorts of new ways. Playing games together over the Internet is a fun thing to do (actually it can be very enjoyable to make fun of each other ('s mistakes, to realize neither are giving the game the special attention that they are, each other) and watch other people's games, etc.), and there are other good things, too, but a marriage-type relationship is going to require knowing (contrasted with meeting, and having fun together on a computer, with) each other in different ways.


7% of communication is through words (text like this).
35% through voice (such as tone, volume, fluxuation, rhythm, speed, for example, which all communicate feelings, intended or not).
58% through body language, like facial expressions.
This is for how people communicate emotionally (how they feel connected to each other) and not in other ways, such as informationally. Although this may not be measured accurately or formulized (as well as social scientists would like to think they can be), realize that how one is feeling is, to connect emotionally, in general, much more important than what one is saying. Facial communication seems more important than that which is conveyed by voice (tone and the like), which can show a lot more than the actual words that are being said. Consider a (otherwise) compliment said in an insulting or sarcastic way (using face and voice). Such can be quite offending!

From that, a conclusion may be said: Unless a relationship is able to be in a traditional ("in-person") context, it may not thrive [as well as otherwise, in that it will lack a certain level of intimacy (no, not sexual intimacy necessarily, but rather enjoyment of each other)]. Consider, however, that people have so many feelings and thoughts, and they may be too much to handle at once!

And how about activities, like attending an event or amusement park, walking outside together, or just being near the other?

Besides all this, sitting at a computer or holding the phone is not pleasant in itself, especially when new difficulties arise (the phone line cuts out; electrical power or Internet service is down) and you cannot be with your companion in time of need, this can be discouraging.

Altogether I very much like meeting new people everywhere [well, not everywhere] including the Internet! Just remember to be safe* when doing so and have fun!

This is a useless safety tip: *Myspace, for example, is not a dangerous site, but many people who use it are making it dangerous for themselves by being stupid! Know that people use computers to do evil things (no I'm not talking about how you downloaded Adobe Photoshop which makes you a software pirate) like finding their (soon-to-be) rape victim. Just have some level of awareness by doing things like not giving your address to a person you (have supposedly met on-line and) know.

search the Internet: fake myspace profiles to find out some schemes that most if not all Myspace users have been exposed to (as well as easily being a potential victim). It can be good to know something relevant for yourself rather than hearing a parent say "Don't give your name or age, the Internet is dangerous and there are bad people..." as well as countless other useless warnings.

P.S. As the title of this post is maximum length; the word "essay" is replaced with "SA", this being a clarification of my intentions.

[tf_arl_90]

It can work.

I've seen it work. I know some people who ended up marrying people who they met off the internet.

That doesn't mean it isn't difficult though. But then again, what relationship isn't?

Some people tend to open up much more easily on the net. They expose their true selves. It's easier for them to find people with similar interests because of forums, fan groups, chat rooms, etc. At the same time, everyone needs to be careful as it's very easy for people to pretend to be someone they're not.

But it absolutely can work.

[fraggled]

:agree:

[Sleepy]

I've seen internet relationships go bad, and I've seen them go good.

My family knew a man who fell in love with a woman, and packed up his stuff to go move in with her and once he arrived he discovered that the woman he fell in love with was actually a man.

But I've seen a lot of relationships go very well. If you can develop friendships online, I think love can also blossom on the internet as well. But if there isn't ever a real hope of meeting, I don't think it could really work out. It's in our nature to want to see, talk, and touch one another. If you can't get your craving for physical affection from your internet girlfriend/boyfriend, you're bound to get it from someone else. Which brings in the whole, "you don't know if they're being faithful if you can't see them." It can work, but it takes a lot of commitment and trust.

[Sponge'K'nob]

No.

I for one wouldn't want a relationship without physical contact.

[Kerry]

It can work.

I've seen it work. I know some people who ended up marrying people who they met off the internet.

That doesn't mean it isn't difficult though. But then again, what relationship isn't?

Some people tend to open up much more easily on the net. They expose their true selves. It's easier for them to find people with similar interests because of forums, fan groups, chat rooms, etc. At the same time, everyone needs to be careful as it's very easy for people to pretend to be someone they're not.

But it absolutely can work.
I agree.

[xMissIzzyx]

I agree. My best relationship to date came from meeting a guy through my cousin on a chatroom. we met in January 2005 and went to a gig together at the Leadmill, and it went from there. We saw eachother most weekends, he drove up or I got a train down there, during the holidays I stayed at his or he came up here.
We broke up after 9 months due to reasons mainly down to family and rumours. but I was in love, and for the most part we had a fantastic relationship. On some level the distance helped, it gave us our own space and freedom to still lead our own lives. I think we would have ended a lot sooner had we been closer together. Too much time with one person can go one of two ways, you can be happy like that or get fucking sick of eachother.

My brother met his gf of about 3 years on the internet, she was in America I think and he was in Australia, she moved in with him and they lasted a good while until she cheated on him and fucked off.
Internet relationships can work, and sometimes they can't. I think it's a bit farfetched to say you fall in love with someone over MSN or chatrooms though, I'd definately say meeting the person and spending proper time together would be necessary for that to happen. Sometimes people get along over the net and yet clash in real life, and don't get along at all.
In my opinion it's down to trust, commitment and patience. Obviously the less distance there is the easier the relationship will be, but it's not impossible, plus some people can live with little physical contact.

Oh, and a friend of mine Colin was with his gf for 13 years, she lived in this country when they were together, they went to school etc, and then her family moved to America. They lasted a good long time though :) They're currently on some sort of break because of money issues or something on his part, he's fallen into depression and can't cope with the commitment.
So there's good and bad sides to every situation.

Overall though, I think closer relationships work better but don't drag internet relationships through the mud just because they're so much more complicated.

[Wacko1574]

WOW...did you get that topic right...well i do believe that there could be an online relationship......well actually i have been on one......and he lived in canada...we never saw each other.....or heard each others voice....we were best frnds for almost 2 years till we confronted to each other our true feelings......and this is year 3..:D...and i have never had any regrets till now...so i do think its a good thing....but with only one slight problem....where is it all gonna end up..??...till now we never answered this question..:)

[xMissIzzyx]

your signiture scares me :|

[Wacko1574]

:(....y?

[Fez]

No.

I for one wouldn't want a relationship without physical contact.

I absolutely positively agree with you here

[lucille]

I suppose it could work once you've actually met the person, but how can you fall in love without actually ever being with them? You can't fall in love with a collection of typed words.

(Although having said that, I of course already know that Izzy is my soul mate who will spend countless days on Jamaican beaches with me when we grow old, but we're special)

[xMissIzzyx]

(Although having said that, I of course already know that Izzy is my soul mate who will spend countless days on Jamaican beaches with me when we grow old, but we're special)
I lol'd :)
we just have a special connection.

[tf_arl_90]

I suppose it could work once you've actually met the person, but how can you fall in love without actually ever being with them? You can't fall in love with a collection of typed words.

I think how a person interacts with other people around them is a big part of who they are, and until I saw that I wouldn't be able to say I loved them for sure. I might have feelings for them, might have a crush or whatever, but I wouldn't be able to honestly say I was in love.

So I agree, kind of. You can be in a relationship with someone without ever uttering the words "I love you" or ever really meaning them, and I think the same goes for online relationships. Sometimes people don't know how they feel and just say "I love you" because they don't know how else to show it.

That's just my opinion though, other people will tell you they knew they loved their online bf/gf before meeting. I try to stay open minded when it comes to these things because I don't know how other people feel, what kind of relationships they have, etc.

[NewAbortion]

I suppose it could work once you've actually met the person, but how can you fall in love without actually ever being with them? You can't fall in love with a collection of typed words.Love is (allegedly) based on a person's personality, which is communicated through words (mostly). Now, yes, you can say it also comes through body language, but most people aren't intuitive or observant enough to take subtle information like body language and draw an accurate conclusion as to what a person is actually like.

Anyway, yes, I do believe in loving online relationships. I've been in one for 8 and a half months now, and I know for a fact that I love my boyfriend. There is nothing to suggest that it's impossible for two people to love each other online (at least, not that I am aware).

~Maggot

[*Jess*]

I agree with above.
Although I think you have to have some sort of physical contact with the person in the relationship and you can see them every so often, I dont see that if the couple are willing to faithfully commit that there is anything wrong with it. Communication could also be better than if you lived close as your relationship would be based more on talking to keep close.

[Menace]

I can always trust someone I never seen, don't know everything about, don't know where they been, where they shit, what mental institutes they graduated from..etc. :D

[*Jess*]

Just because you've seen them though it doesnt mean that hasn't happened to them either, but they're lying about it ;)
You can usually trust them and if you have the slightest bit of common sense you can see the dodgy ones, especially with the technology such as phones/webcams available, and just listening to things they say about themselves will help you spot the fake ones.

[tf_arl_90]

I can always trust someone I never seen, don't know everything about, don't know where they been, where they shit, what mental institutes they graduated from..etc. :D

Yup. And nobody EVER lies in real life either. Right?

Right.

[Menace]

Just because you've seen them though it doesnt mean that hasn't happened to them either, but they're lying about it ;)
You can usually trust them and if you have the slightest bit of common sense you can see the dodgy ones, especially with the technology such as phones/webcams available, and just listening to things they say about themselves will help you spot the fake ones.

Yeah I know what you mean.

Well seeing someone through a crappy webcam isn't excatly the same as seeing them eye to eye and you don't know how they smell!

[Menace]

Yup. And nobody EVER lies in real life either. Right?

Right.

Atleast you can look them in the eyes. :D

[NewAbortion]

Atleast you can look them in the eyes. :D
That's thoroughly irrelevant. Your point was that you can't know if they're lying about themselves, but the same can be said in person, whether you're looking them in the eyes or not.

~Maggot

[baby_koala_gal]

I am in a long distance relationship! my bf lives in usa i liv in uk! its hard dat we cnt b wit each otha! but im glad i found him x

[Wacko1574]

awwww thats nice...happy for ya gurl:D:D

[Menace]

That's thoroughly irrelevant. Your point was that you can't know if they're lying about themselves, but the same can be said in person, whether you're looking them in the eyes or not.

~Maggot

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/M/mindcontrol/secret_lying.htm

^Hehe sure you can!

:D

[*Jess*]

It wouldn't be as simple as that, most people would be able to find lies therough the internet through conversation etc. unless you were suspicious in which case you wouldn't be in a good relationship if you were anyway it is highly unlikely that you would notice all lies by staring into their eyes. if you dOnt trust them dont have a relationship with them, simple really.

[Menace]

It wouldn't be as simple as that, most people would be able to find lies therough the internet through conversation etc. unless you were suspicious in which case you wouldn't be in a good relationship if you were anyway it is highly unlikely that you would notice all lies by staring into their eyes. if you dOnt trust them dont have a relationship with them, simple really.

>_<

Just my opinion on the matter...I don't think It's very healthy.

Yea, you can't tell all by looking into the eyes but still you are certain to know better if someone is lying if you're with them.

[NewAbortion]

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/M/mindcontrol/secret_lying.htm

^Hehe sure you can!

:DLink didn't work.

Anyway:

For example, a recent, as yet unpublished meta-analysis of 253 studies of people distinguishing truths from lies revealed overall accuracy was just 53 percent--not much better than flipping a coin, note the authors, psychologists Charles Bond, PhD, of Texas Christian University, and Bella DePaulo, PhD, of the University of California, Santa Barbara.
According to DePaulo and Morris, only when liars are more highly motivated--when the stakes are higher--do they seem unusually still and make notably less eye contact with listeners.It really doesn't matter if you're in person or not. The most useful way of telling if someone is lying is their speech (the actual words, not tone or anything), which, obviously, you can tell online just as easily as you can in person.
Just my opinion on the matter...I don't think It's very healthy. It's not healthy? How is a relationship not healthy?

~Maggot

[tf_arl_90]

The point is, people lie online and offline. There's no escaping that.

How good a liar or how well you can tell if someone is lying all comes down to the person.

If you have half a brain you should be able to know who you can trust and with how much of your personal information.

[Menace]

Link didn't work.

Anyway:
It really doesn't matter if you're in person or not. The most useful way of telling if someone is lying is their speech (the actual words, not tone or anything), which, obviously, you can tell online just as easily as you can in person.It's not healthy? How is a relationship not healthy?

~Maggot

Lol okay.

Either way, you're still making love to a computer. :D

[tf_arl_90]

Lol okay.

Either way, you're still making love to a computer. :-D

:rolleyes:


It's not healthy? How is a relationship not healthy?

I'm not sure. I'd like an answer to that myself, actually.

The only thing I could possibly think of is that it prevents them from dating in the real world, they don't receive any physical contact, etc. But plenty of people don't start dating until much later in their life and still lead an active and healthy social life.

[Menace]

I think it's a waste of time and shouldn't be taken seriously...just for fun.

[NewAbortion]

I think it's a waste of time and shouldn't be taken seriously...just for fun.Really? Because I know people that have dated online for years and then gotten married. And my boyfriend and I take our relationship very seriously. Why shouldn't it be?
Lol okay.

Either way, you're still making love to a computer. :DUm, no, I'm not.

Again, I ask, how is it unhealthy?

~Maggot

[Kerry]

Really? Because I know people that have dated online for years and then gotten married. And my boyfriend and I take our relationship very seriously. Why shouldn't it be?
I've heard that too, but it's just his opinion on the matter, everyone's opinion differs, I guess. ;o

[NewAbortion]

I've heard that too, but it's just his opinion on the matter, everyone's opinion differs, I guess. ;oTwo words: debate thread.

~Maggot

[Fez]

is a relationship not healthy?



i dont think he means the relationship itself, he probably means the computer is not healthy.. for your eyes ;)

[Menace]

Lol!


Really? Because I know people that have dated online for years and then gotten married. And my boyfriend and I take our relationship very seriously. Why shouldn't it be?Um, no, I'm not.

Again, I ask, how is it unhealthy?

~Maggot

They're ugly! :D

You're 16 and thinking of getting married to someone you never met in person?

[NewAbortion]

They're ugly! :DWho is?

You're 16 and thinking of getting married to someone you never met in person?Thinking of marrying him? No. He and I agreed that we see no point in marriage, so it's unlikely we'll ever do that. But staying with him forever? Yes.
Yes and that's his opinion on it.Debate threads aren't just about stating opinions, they're about debating them.

~Maggot

[Kerry]

Debate threads aren't just about stating opinions, they're about debating them.

~Maggot
I knooow :O
I deleted the message before I seen yours. xD

[Menace]

Who is?
Thinking of marrying him? No. He and I agreed that we see no point in marriage, so it's unlikely we'll ever do that. But staying with him forever? Yes. Debate threads aren't just about stating opinions, they're about debating them.

~Maggot

People who get married from online chit-chat, of course. :D

Often mindless individuals.

And why would you want to do that?

[NewAbortion]

People who get married from online chit-chat, of course. :DHa. I would love to show you a picture of my boyfriend. Let's just say that my friend and I genuinely suspected for a while that he was secretly a model.

Often mindless individuals.Come again?
And why would you want to do that?Do what, exactly?

~Maggot

[Fez]

it's unlikely we'll ever do that. But staying with him forever? Yes.


so you've never met him before right?
and you want to stay the rest of your live with him...

i give you less that 2 years:)

[NewAbortion]

so you've never met him before right?
and you want to stay the rest of your live with him...

i give you less that 2 years:)*shrugs* You can judge us all you want; I really don't care. I stand by what I said and how I feel.

~Maggot

[Menace]

Ha. I would love to show you a picture of my boyfriend. Let's just say that my friend and I genuinely suspected for a while that he was secretly a model.
Come again? Do what, exactly?

~Maggot

So you didn't even get a crappy webcam show? just a random picture? stay with him forever? why?

[NewAbortion]

So you didn't even get a crappy webcam show? just a random picture?Well, three pictures, but yeah.
stay with him forever? why?Because I love him, and that's what I want to do?

~Maggot

[Menace]

Well, three pictures, but yeah. Because I love him, and that's what I want to do?

~Maggot

Oh my...three pictures are very convincing...he could just be a random freak you know.

Love him? you haven't met him! I think you are just in love with being in love.

[NewAbortion]

Oh my...three pictures are very convincing...he could just be a random freak you know. Of course. I'll let his sister and best friends know about that.
Love him? you haven't met him! I think you are just in love with being in love.Ha. Yeah, tell that to my therapist and my doctor. Even people who don't believe in online relationships recognize that I love him and he loves me. You don't have any knowledge to base any judgment about us on.

~Maggot

[Menace]

Of course. I'll let his sister and best friends know about that.Ha.

Are they real or imaginary? :D


Yeah, tell that to my therapist and my doctor. Even people who don't believe in online relationships recognize that I love him and he loves me. You don't have any knowledge to base any judgment about us on.

~Maggot

Okay mental person you're in love...with a ghost. :D

[NewAbortion]

Are they real or imaginary? :D

Okay mental person you're in love...with a ghost. :DAlright, how 'bout this: If you give me proof that I can't love someone online, I will gladly admit to being wrong, and I'll break up with my boyfriend.

~Maggot

[Menace]

Alright, how 'bout this: If you give me proof that I can't love someone online, I will gladly admit to being wrong, and I'll break up with my boyfriend.

~Maggot

Maybe you felt love for this person or ghost or whatever...but you're not actually in love...just typical teenage foolishness...I'm not trying to prove you wrong...just saying.

[NewAbortion]

Maybe you felt love for this person or ghost or whatever...but you're not actually in love...just typical teenage foolishness...I'm not trying to prove you wrong...just saying.I know what that "typical teenage foolishness" is, and this isn't that. You don't know anything about our relationship; if you did, you'd be as certain as I am.

Again, give me proof that I don't love him.

~Maggot

[Menace]

I know what that "typical teenage foolishness" is, and this isn't that. You don't know anything about our relationship; if you did, you'd be as certain as I am.

Again, give me proof that I don't love him.

~Maggot

Oh what is it that I don't know that is making you soooooo certain?

Love who? a nickname? :D

[NewAbortion]

Oh what is it that I don't know that is making you soooooo certain? Well...

1) The way we act with each other.
2) The way I feel about him. I've had those crushes you're referring to, and this is nothing like that.
3) He hardly leaves the house anymore except when necessary so he can talk to me, and I'm the same way.
4) The fact that I completely reversed my natural sleeping pattern (slept during the day, stayed up all night) so I could talk to him more, because he was going through a rough time, and me being there for him to talk to helped.
5) He whines to his friends that he misses me. This is so unlike him, that his best friend actually gave him a weird look and moved away when he said it, and everyone is shocked by it, because he's never been that way before.
6) He's convinced that the fact he and I can't be together in person has been having serious emotional effects on him.
7) He lost one of his good friends because of a fight over our relationship.
8) I lost my best friend because of a fight that started when she insulted him.
9) The fact that his near-fatal accident threw me into a state of depression that ended up requiring medication and counseling.

Of course, that's all off the top of my head. I could come up with more, but I don't want to go THAT deep into our personal stuff. But you don't know ANYTHING about our relationship, so EVERYTHING is making me that certain.

Love who? a nickname? :DI don't know what you're talking about. Give me proof that I don't love my boyfriend.

~Maggot

[tf_arl_90]

People who get married from online chit-chat, of course. :D

Often mindless individuals.

Where the hell do you get off calling them mindless individuals? I mean it's one thing to not believe in having feelings online, but they've met in real life, obviously spent time together in real life, they just happened to meet initially online.

How are they mindless?

They [thought they] had feelings for each other online, explored them offline, and decided to get married. They're regular people.

[!GeTSiCK]

Lol okay.

Either way, you're still making love to a computer. :D


I agree.
How can you believe in a realationship without knowing the person at all in person. You cant feel their touch or their kiss. Physical needs are just as important.
Online Realationships are stupid. People only use them for the title. OOOOhhh its my BOYFRIEND. Great. When are you meeting?

[*Jess*]

I dont see anything wrong in people who meet online and get married or whatever. Some people don't have the opportunities or confidence to go out and chat up some random woman or man who they meet. People also find soul mates who may live further away from them than would ever let them meet. I dont see anything wrong in being with someone you'd be happier with than just someone you met in person.

Meeting online also gives some people an opportunity they wouldn't get if they met in person. For example I remember watching a programme where people with disabilities, and one where dwarfs would speak to people the same as them online. These people would most likely never get that opportunity in person and if they found a partner then obviously they'd meet up

People online are generally people who are in person, not a computer ;) Just because a couple meet through a computer it doesn't mean you have fallen in love with the computer, it means you have fallen in love with their personality, yes personality its not the computers personality, a computer is just the medium through which you talk, which is far better than falling in love with someones looks as people seem to far more often in person.

Nobody has the right to say whether a relationship is right or wrong because of the way they meet.

[fraggled]

Oh you can fall involve with computers, would you like me to demonstrate with J-Bot the smartest MSN bot evar ;)

[God.]

I want J-Bot!

[Fez]

I agree.
How can you believe in a realationship without knowing the person at all in person. You cant feel their touch or their kiss. Physical needs are just as important.
Online Realationships are stupid. People only use them for the title. OOOOhhh its my BOYFRIEND. Great. When are you meeting?

bulls eye!



Nobody has the right to say whether a relationship is right or wrong because of the way they meet.

I'm not sayin its wrong. just dont think its gonna be forever. she's only 16. i bet you at 18 she will find someone where she lives and forget about that guy. or visa versa.
unless you guys decide to meet one day.. of course thats not always good o_O

[NewAbortion]

I'm not sayin its wrong. just dont think its gonna be forever. she's only 16. i bet you at 18 she will find someone where she lives and forget about that guy. or visa versa.
unless you guys decide to meet one day.. of course thats not always good o_OWe're meeting in a few months.
I agree.
How can you believe in a realationship without knowing the person at all in person. You cant feel their touch or their kiss.Which sucks.

Physical needs are just as important.Why?
Online Realationships are stupid. People only use them for the title. OOOOhhh its my BOYFRIEND.Actually, I had no interest whatsoever in dating before I met my boyfriend, and I turned down all guys that asked.
Great. When are you meeting?As I said, in a few months.

~Maggot

[Menace]

Well...

1) The way we act with each other.
2) The way I feel about him. I've had those crushes you're referring to, and this is nothing like that.
3) He hardly leaves the house anymore except when necessary so he can talk to me, and I'm the same way.
4) The fact that I completely reversed my natural sleeping pattern (slept during the day, stayed up all night) so I could talk to him more, because he was going through a rough time, and me being there for him to talk to helped.
5) He whines to his friends that he misses me. This is so unlike him, that his best friend actually gave him a weird look and moved away when he said it, and everyone is shocked by it, because he's never been that way before.
6) He's convinced that the fact he and I can't be together in person has been having serious emotional effects on him.
7) He lost one of his good friends because of a fight over our relationship.
8) I lost my best friend because of a fight that started when she insulted him.
9) The fact that his near-fatal accident threw me into a state of depression that ended up requiring medication and counseling.

Of course, that's all off the top of my head. I could come up with more, but I don't want to go THAT deep into our personal stuff. But you don't know ANYTHING about our relationship, so EVERYTHING is making me that certain.
I don't know what you're talking about. Give me proof that I don't love my boyfriend.

~Maggot

So this online "boyfriend" is making you self-destruct aswell, damn.

[Sparx]

So this online "boyfriend" is making you self-destruct aswell, damn.

The last few pages of this thread seems to be you and NewAbortion debating wheither or not her relationship is true or not. Now, I know this is for debating, but it seems your just trying to argue every point she makes and think she's wrong, now - I could have a few things to say but I'm not going too. I'm not a fan of online relationships myself or have any faith in them, she'll find out herself sooner or later what to do.

Get of her case, sheez. ;)

[Menace]

The last few pages of this thread seems to be you and NewAbortion debating wheither or not her relationship is true or not. Now, I know this is for debating, but it seems your just trying to argue every point she makes and think she's wrong, now - I could have a few things to say but I'm not going too. I'm not a fan of online relationships myself or have any faith in them, she'll find out herself sooner or later what to do.

Get of her case, sheez. ;)

Just my interpretation.

[NewAbortion]

So this online "boyfriend" is making you self-destruct aswell, damn.Oh, please. At first you were trying to say it's not love, and now you've found something else wrong with it. Stop telling me what is and isn't true about my relationship, when you don't know anything about it.

AGAIN, I ask you, what is your proof that one can't love over the internet?
The last few pages of this thread seems to be you and NewAbortion debating wheither or not her relationship is true or not. Now, I know this is for debating, but it seems your just trying to argue every point she makes and think she's wrong, now - I could have a few things to say but I'm not going too. I'm not a fan of online relationships myself or have any faith in them, she'll find out herself sooner or later what to do.

Get of her case, sheez. ;)Thank you.

~Maggot

[tf_arl_90]

Online Realationships are stupid. People only use them for the title. OOOOhhh its my BOYFRIEND. Great.

You're right, a lot of people do this. *However* people do the same thing with relationships offline all the time too.

The only real difference is that you're not physically with the person. But if people don't believe in successful internet relationships simply because you can't hold, hug, or kiss your partner whenever you want to, then I suppose they don't believe in successful long distance relationships either. Which is more a personal thing, since several long distance relationships do end up working out.

I think I said earlier that I believe you can have some kind of feelings for a person online but you won't really be entirely sure about them until you meet them and spend some time with them, and I stand by that statement.

Whether or not someone thinks the whole thing is ridiculous is down to opinion, definitely. But I truly don't understand how anyone can say that mutual feelings can't at all exist online. Just because you haven't experienced it yourself doesn't mean other people haven't. I don't think NewAbortion is making up or lying about her feelings, and whether it's legitimate or not is not really up to anyone else's judgment.


The last few pages of this thread seems to be you and NewAbortion debating wheither or not her relationship is true or not. Now, I know this is for debating, but it seems your just trying to argue every point she makes and think she's wrong, now - I could have a few things to say but I'm not going too. I'm not a fan of online relationships myself or have any faith in them, she'll find out herself sooner or later what to do.

Get of her case, sheez. ;)

It's a lot easier to single out and attack one particular case rather than consider the broad scheme of things ;)

[Menace]

Oh, please. At first you were trying to say it's not love, and now you've found something else wrong with it. Stop telling me what is and isn't true about my relationship, when you don't know anything about it.

AGAIN, I ask you, what is your proof that one can't love over the internet?

~Maggot

My opinion on what you are saying and what you are asking me.

They're aren't any fairy tales on Internet romance? :D

[NewAbortion]

My opinion on what you are saying and what you are asking me.Lovely. What about it?

They're aren't any fairy tales on Internet romance? :DI hope you're not serious.

Are you going to answer my question, or are you going to continue shamelessly avoiding?

~Maggot

[Pearson]

You cant love someone you never actually physically meet. I think you might have strong emotions for them....but I don't think its love. They're not actually there...I don't no how to describe what I mean but its like you're in love with a msn conversation...love's more than a good conversation. If you go on to meet that person then great. But if you're in a relationship with someone you've never met...I find that a little odd.

[Menace]

You cant love someone you never actually physically meet. I think you might have strong emotions for them....but I don't think its love. They're not actually there...I don't no how to describe what I mean but its like you're in love with a msn conversation...love's more than a good conversation. If you go on to meet that person then great. But if you're in a relationship with someone you've never met...I find that a little odd.

:agree:

@NewAbortion: Bah...I'm bored of this subject...I'm out of this debate.

[Leon]

Got to go with Pearson on this one, I don't think real love is possible without meeting.

[--Tania--]

I guess if someone really grows fond of the person and also keeps in contact via post or telephone any distance would work but for me I'd only go as far as short distance or wouldn't go for it at all. If I like someone I'd want to see them often.

[*Jess*]

I do agree with the concept up there inof having someone online, quite obviously, but I think you need to see each other sometimes, so i agree with most some way because unless you see each other a couple of times at least its not going to work out, relationships were made to be at least a little bit physical and personal.

[NewAbortion]

You cant love someone you never actually physically meet.Proof?

I don't no how to describe what I mean but its like you're in love with a msn conversationThere's quite a difference between one MSN conversation and hundreds upon hundreds, with the person in different moods, with different issues, different schedules, etc. Do not equate the two.
:agree:

@NewAbortion: Bah...I'm bored of this subject...I'm out of this debate.Uh-huh. It seems odd that you refused to answer my question that I asked numerous times before you became so "bored". But, hey, it's alright. I'll just pretend I didn't notice. ;)

~Maggot

[Nintendus]

I have reason to believe that the internet is a fine place to meet a partner for a relationship ;)

I also think it's possible to have feelings for someone online. I'd still rather meet the person however.

[God.]

I have reason to believe that the internet is a fine place to meet a partner for a relationship ;)

I knew it! :D

[*Jess*]

Psychic :O

[!GeTSiCK]

You cant love someone you've never met. You don't actually know them.
Text on a computer screen and phone calls aren't love. Anyone could be behind those words. How do you know someones actually telling you the truth? Lots of people online are fake.
What says your not going to meet somebody and forget about this person forever because this new hottie comes up to you and they smell nice and all of a sudden your flirting away?
WHAT IF YOUR COMPUTER CRASHED!!! OMG, THEN WHAT!!!
[haha. i'm kidding there. ]

[fraggled]

Somebody already tried that. But then again, you can't expect somebody to know that love is NOT about physical attraction. ;)

[!GeTSiCK]

Its NOT about it. But i believe that its definitly a part of it.
I dont think you can have a realationship without either.

[fraggled]

The fact that most people think physical appearance is a major role or even a "50/50" role in a relationship is why people are so shallow. The problem with most relationships that think at this level is that they truly are bigoted and most of the time end up going into disaster. Think of relationships like an Object Orientated Application. While the "Looks" library is a plus, the application can be just as fun and just as fine without it. Because the core of the application doesn't rely on that one library. While people do seek the the physical touch, this isn't about looks. It wouldn't most likely not work out because of looks, because if this was the case, they certainly wouldn't have been looking on-line the first place, it would most likely end up in disaster because of the ever human want to seek physical touch. Physical touch is often "body language love" or however you want to say it, I don't know how you can love how something looks because how something looks certainly won't entertain you for long, shiny objects don't stay shiny forever, people need to realize this ahead of time.

[*Jess*]

You cant love someone you've never met. You don't actually know them.
Text on a computer screen and phone calls aren't love.

Have you been reading this thread, and thought you'd emulate someone elses argument? Seems so to me. As soon as one person said this, everyone else did. No, text on a screen isn't love, but you don't exactly fall in love with the text, its the sentiment and personality behind the person saying the words you fall in love with. People have done similar things for years. People used to write handwritten letters to people all over the world and fall in love with the person who wrote the letters, not fall in love with a piece of paper. But people dismiss this and seem to think that it is a new idea. Its not a new idea, just a new way of doing it.


Anyone could be behind those words. How do you know someones actually telling you the truth? Lots of people online are fake.

Er, love. People in real life are fake. You just think that because you have seen them in person they are OBVIOUSLY telling the truth. But you dont know that. It is actually far easier to find someone fake online if you do research and have a little common sense. But in person when you find someone who is just taking advantage or whatever it is by then usually far too late. as they have already spiked your drink/used you/cheated on you ;)


What says your not going to meet somebody and forget about this person forever because this new hottie comes up to you and they smell nice and all of a sudden your flirting away?

What says that doesn't happen in real life? Thats a rediculous argument as that happens everywhere and it doesn't happen more frequently online than it does offline if you are actually in a devoted relationship.


WHAT IF YOUR COMPUTER CRASHED!!! OMG, THEN WHAT!!!
[haha. i'm kidding there. ]

HAHA OMGZ LOLZ.

[Innamorata]

Well, then you write letters/texts/talk on the phone :/

[NewAbortion]

You cant love someone you've never met. You don't actually know them.PROOF?

I have to wonder if anyone is going to ever give me proof of this.

~Maggot

[VraiCanon]

Hmm this is a toughie.
I don't think you can actually fall in love with someone you have never met but you can certainly start to... If that makes sense.
On one hand - talking to someone online means you love talking to them because of their personality etc however this could all be lies. Then again people can lie to your face anyway so that isn't really a strong argument. But it is alot easier to hide your flaws on the internet. Besides, I doubt nobody is exactly the same person online & offline, even if it just a confidence factor.
On the other hand - as shallow as it may seem I still believe physical attractiveness does play a part. Admit it, wouldn't you be the slightest bit put off if you thought someone was absolutely beautiful in their pictures & turned out to be repulsive to you in real life? Hmm. Then again, if you love someone everything about the person attracts you to them.. Personality can also make a person seem more attractive to you than if you didn't know them at all aswell.
I don't think I'm really making sense but overall I'd say that the internet could be the stem or the key for opening the door (how cheesy) to fall in love with the person but I think to truly fall in love, the physical side must be there. e.g. touching the person, see'ing their body language etc.

[VraiCanon]

OK so I just read through the thread. NewAbortion, I don't see how you can be so sure you want to spend the rest of your life with someone you've never even met. I agree that you probably have extremely strong feelings for your boyfriend but I think love is too strong a word for someone you have never met. I would wait till you meet this guy to be saying things like that to each other.

[fraggled]

OK so I just read through the thread. NewAbortion, I don't see how you can be so sure you want to spend the rest of your life with someone you've never even met.

How can my clients be so sure they want to drop 50K on me to do some work, they have never met me, but they certainly tracked me down and heard about my name, across country at that. How can I be so sure that an investment of 100K is worth it, I haven't seen the company in action, I haven't seen the company ran yet, it's a new business, but the business plan looks stable, but then again, there is no physical or visual proof, but I'll probably do it because its a business opportunity and it only requires one small call to my bank.

[Kate]

Psssh.

[VraiCanon]

How can my clients be so sure they want to drop 50K on me to do some work, they have never met me, but they certainly tracked me down and heard about my name, across country at that. How can I be so sure that an investment of 100K is worth it, I haven't seen the company in action, I haven't seen the company ran yet, it's a new business, but the business plan looks stable, but then again, there is no physical or visual proof, but I'll probably do it because its a business opportunity and it only requires one small call to my bank.

Work partnership is different to being in love with someone.
Why on earth would you invest 100K into a business that you haven't seen in action? That's a ridiculous example.

[fraggled]

Work partnership is different to being in love with someone.
Why on earth would you invest 100K into a business that you haven't seen in action? That's a ridiculous example.

Work partnerships are no different, people put their companies on the line to hire me, they put their lives on line, it's a make or break deal when you hire professionals, we are NOT partners, I am the one who helps them make money, just like love, it can either make you are break you.

Haha, no it's ;) welcome to life dear, the company twitter just got invested to for 3 Million and nobody knew who they were, what they were going to do and how they were going to do it, it's called Venture capitalism, and it's based on possibility, it's how the rich get rich and the richer get richer. It's how companies like Yahoo, Google, 9 Rules, Digg, Mozilla, Flock, and others started out. I suggest you learn a little more about life before you start throwing out ideas about how it works. Love is like that, you throw YOUR LIFE out on a limb for an idea that could either make you, or break you.

[NewAbortion]

OK so I just read through the thread. NewAbortion, I don't see how you can be so sure you want to spend the rest of your life with someone you've never even met. I agree that you probably have extremely strong feelings for your boyfriend but I think love is too strong a word for someone you have never met. I would wait till you meet this guy to be saying things like that to each other.And I truly don't care what you can or can't see or what you would do. I love him, and I do want to spend the rest of my life with him. If you don't like that, you can kiss my ass.
Hmm this is a toughie.
I don't think you can actually fall in love with someone you have never met but you can certainly start to... If that makes sense.Are you going to offer any proof?

~Maggot

[VraiCanon]

I know what venture capitalism is thanks. Yes it is a risk however PERSONALLY (yes, believe it or not my views in this debate are PERSONAL OPINIONS) I wouldn't take that risk.
Also, venture capitalists usually DO have an idea of how the business works etc so the only reason I can see you using that as an example to compare to love on the internet is because you only have an IDEA of what someone is like.

Oh and I do apologize for not having as much life experience & knowledge as you so obviously have.

[VraiCanon]

And I truly don't care what you can or can't see or what you would do. I love him, and I do want to spend the rest of my life with him. If you don't like that, you can kiss my ass.Are you going to offer any proof?

~Maggot

Fair enough. I don't actually care about your personal life. This is a debate about internet relationships & I was stating my opinions on your example.

What kind of proof am I supposedly able to give to show you can/can't fall in love on the internet?
There are plenty of examples of where people have THOUGHT they were in love on the internet & it just hasn't worked once they have met.
Are you going to offer any proof that people DO fall in love on the internet? Apart from you THINKING you have.

[NewAbortion]

What kind of proof am I supposedly able to give to show you can/can't fall in love on the internet?Well, if you have an opinion, I'm sure you have some proof or at least strong evidence to support your argument. If you don't, then shut your goddamn mouth, because you don't have any fucking right to say people in online relationships aren't truly in love.
There are plenty of examples of where people have THOUGHT they were in love on the internet & it just hasn't worked once they have met.And there are plenty of examples where people have THOUGHT they were in love IN PERSON and it turns out they weren't.
Are you going to offer any proof that people DO fall in love on the internet? Apart from you THINKING you have.I think we all agree that people fall in love in person. Therefore, without proof or evidence to suggest that it is impossible to do so online, there is no reason to believe so. I don't need proof, because my argument is what we all already know - people fall in love.

~Maggot

[Innamorata]

Haha, VraiCanon said what I was going to say. You can't give any proof either way, it's a matter of opinion. I still think that thinking you're deeply in love with someone you've never met is stupid though.

[Kate]

ZOMG

That maggot thing is back :(

[fraggled]

I know what venture capitalism is thanks. Yes it is a risk however PERSONALLY (yes, believe it or not my views in this debate are PERSONAL OPINIONS) I wouldn't take that risk.
Also, venture capitalists usually DO have an idea of how the business works etc so the only reason I can see you using that as an example to compare to love on the internet is because you only have an IDEA of what someone is like.

Oh and I do apologize for not having as much life experience & knowledge as you so obviously have.


Are you sure about that? Ideas change, and ideas aren't set in stone, tell me why Digg changed it's perspective idea after its venture capitalist meetings ;). Then tell me why most of these companies aren't started yet, its amazing how you can have a proven idea when something doesn't exist but on paper. My company went to its Venture capital meetings and did the same thing as well. But then again, my company only changed its name and its COMPLETE IDEA.


But then again, how can you fall in love with somebody in life too, I mean people can lie in real life and you NEVER know, its an everyday part of life. :-O amazing.

[Innamorata]

Zomg. Let's squish it.

[Kate]

IN STILETTO'ssssssss!

[Innamorata]

Sexy black ones? Boots?

[Kate]

Your choice completely, dear, as long as it/she/thing/he gets crushed.
Ooooh maggot crushing is fun.

[NewAbortion]

Haha, VraiCanon said what I was going to say. You can't give any proof either way, it's a matter of opinion.

I think we all agree that people fall in love in person. Therefore, without proof or evidence to suggest that it is impossible to do so online, there is no reason to believe so. I don't need proof, because my argument is what we all already know - people fall in love.I'll give you an example, seeing as you apparently have difficulty grasping the concept:

White people fall in love; that's a well-known fact. White people are human; black people are human. Therefore, it is natural and logical that we assume blacks love just as whites do. Do we need proof that they do? No. The only way you'd need proof is if you were trying to claim blacks can't feel love, because it contradicts what is logically obvious. You would ask for proof if someone said they can't, would you not? And, if they could not give you proof, you would dismiss their claim because it has no basis, yes?

I still think that thinking you're deeply in love with someone you've never met is stupid though.meet
-verb
to become acquainted with; be introduced to

acquainted
-adjective
1. having personal knowledge as a result of study, experience, etc.; informed (usually fol. by with): to be acquainted with law.
2. brought into social contact; made familiar: people acquainted through mutual friends.

(Even though it's unnecessary, seeing as definition #1 fits my purpose):
familiar
-adjective
commonly or generally known or seen:
well-acquainted; thoroughly conversant
closely intimate or personal

I'd say I've met my boyfriend, and the dictionary agrees.
Your choice completely, dear, as long as it/she/thing/he gets crushed.
Ooooh maggot crushing is fun.She.
ZOMG

That maggot thing is back :(I'm "that maggot thing" now? Omg, I love it. XD

~Maggot

[Innamorata]

Hmm kinky black boots are good. Then we can feed the maggot to the fishes.

[Innamorata]

What the fuck have you brought that up for? You might have talked to your boyfriend, but you have not met him.


I'll give you an example, seeing as you apparently have difficulty grasping the concept:

White people fall in love; that's a well-known fact. White people are human; black people are human. Therefore, it is natural and logical that we assume blacks love just as whites do. Do we need proof that they do? No. The only way you'd need proof is if you were trying to claim blacks can't feel love, because it contradicts what is logically obvious. You would ask for proof if someone said they can't, would you not? And, if they could not give you proof, you would dismiss their claim because it has no basis, yes?


~Maggot

[Kate]

I'm "that maggot thing" now? Omg, I love it. XD

It's either that or annoying it he/she crazy slipknot scary atheist person.

And yeahhhh.
Im thinking kinky dominatrix boots too my dear.

[Innamorata]

Woot, dominatrix boots. I like :D

[Kate]

White people fall in love; that's a well-known fact. White people are human; black people are human. Therefore, it is natural and logical that we assume blacks love just as whites do. Do we need proof that they do? No. The only way you'd need proof is if you were trying to claim blacks can't feel love, because it contradicts what is logically obvious. You would ask for proof if someone said they can't, would you not? And, if they could not give you proof, you would dismiss their claim because it has no basis, yes?

If that was racism, you better start running, bitch

[God.]

Noob. What is logically possible is that the person you love is a 57 year old man waiting to rape you.

What is possible is that seeing as he never has real contact with you, he's off with other girls, you don't know that.

At the end of the day, love is the commitment to give the rest of your life to another person. Doing that to someone you haven't met is ludicrous.

[Innamorata]

Lolz, I love you.

Because I have met you, and you are not a 57 year old man.


Noob. What is logically possible is that the person you love is a 57 year old man waiting to rape you.

What is possible is that seeing as he never has real contact with you, he's off with other girls, you don't know that.

At the end of the day, love is the commitment to give the rest of your life to another person. Doing that to someone you haven't met is ludicrous.

[NewAbortion]

What the fuck have you brought that up for?You're not seriously this slow, are you?
I don't need proof, because my argument is what we all already know - people fall in love.

...

I'll give you an example, seeing as you apparently have difficulty grasping the concept...

The only way you'd need proof is if you were trying to claim blacks can't feel love, because it contradicts what is logically obvious.It's really not that difficult, I swear.

You might have talked to your boyfriend, but you have not met him.meet
-verb
to become acquainted with; be introduced to

acquainted
-adjective
1. having personal knowledge as a result of study, experience, etc.; informed (usually fol. by with): to be acquainted with law.
2. brought into social contact; made familiar: people acquainted through mutual friends.

(Even though it's unnecessary, seeing as definition #1 fits my purpose):
familiar
-adjective
commonly or generally known or seen:
well-acquainted; thoroughly conversant
closely intimate or personal

The dictionary disagrees with you.
It's either that or annoying it he/she crazy slipknot scary atheist person.

And yeahhhh.
Im thinking kinky dominatrix boots too my dear.I like that one better, actually. Although, they're both thoroughly amusing, so use whichever you like.
Noob. What is logically possible is that the person you love is a 57 year old man waiting to rape you.Because, as we all know, everyone on the internet is a pedophile. Quite frankly, I don't think anyone would wait an entire year for that chance, do you? I'm sure there are easier targets.

What is possible is that seeing as he never has real contact with you, he's off with other girls, you don't know that.Same thing as in real life. People cheat in person all the time.
At the end of the day, love is the commitment to give the rest of your life to another person. Doing that to someone you haven't met is ludicrous.Proof?
If that was racism, you better start running, bitch...

Yes, yes, it was.

~Maggot

[Kate]

Well tbh, crazy annoying maggot squished on shoe person, you need to learn how to use full stops because that paragraph was rather confusing :(

So go get raped by your grandpa boyfriend

[fraggled]

Noob. What is logically possible is that the person you love is a 57 year old man waiting to rape you.


That's not logic. Logic is that logically she can meet either the love of her life or a 57 year old man, and logic also says, that since technically they haven't met, she CAN'T get raped. And logic also says, that if he was out to rape her, he wouldn't have waited this long ;) and he logically wouldn't have done it over seas. :-\

[Innamorata]

Maggot, you're a moron, and you can't use the dictionary properly. Don't insult me about my intelligence, you should be more worried about your own.

[*Jess*]

Whilst I agree they can work, I do think you have to meet them to actually know and thats an important part of the relationship too.
You can't deny that in your relationship you don't get the awful urge to just be in his company and have the physical side? I'd probably want to meet him first before i confessed my love for him, you can shout at me all you want but i think its important really.

Although like I've said throughout this thread, they can work and you can usually trust them as much as you could a person offline.

[God.]

Proof? ~Maggot

Example.

You just called my girlfriend slow.

However, she is one of the most intelligent people on this site.

You made a poor judgement of her on here, which doesn't say much for your character judgement, so you being "in love" with your boyfriend means nothing.

You don't know what Love is.

You're just shouting at everyone because they disagree with you, so you can justify the relationship you have.

At the end of the day, there's lots you don't know about him. You don't know how compatible you are living together, being in each others company, or how you even are in real life.

In short, you don't know him.

I knew Lucie for years before I started going out with her. I thought I knew her well until I met her, at which point I realised that I didn't know her.

It doesn't matter what the dictionary says, knowing someone isn't just about knowing them, but also about knowing how your personalities match up.

Personalities cannot be adequately applied over the web. End of.

[Innamorata]

Aww, rep.

[Kate]

Personalities cannot be adequately applied over the web. End of.

*Throws fist in air to second Callums' opinion*

And you dare call Lucie slow. I'll squish you with my heel!

[Innamorata]

:D *squishes*


*Throws fist in air to second Callums' opinion*

And you dare call Lucie slow. I'll squish you with my heel!

[NewAbortion]

Whilst I agree they can work, I do think you have to meet them to actually know and thats an important part of the relationship too.Know what, exactly?
You can't deny that in your relationship you don't get the awful urge to just be in his company and have the physical side?I have that urge every second of every day, to the point that I sometimes think I literally have gone crazy. I certainly won't deny that I hate the distance.
I'd probably want to meet him first before i confessed my love for him, you can shout at me all you want but i think its important really.I'm not going to shout at you. You said that's what you'd want to do; you didn't say that's what everyone should do. I respect your opinion.
Maggot, you're a moron, and you can't use the dictionary properly. Don't insult me about my intelligence, you should be more worried about your own.Lovely. Are you going to disprove me or not? If I'm so wrong, it should be quite easy.
Well tbh, crazy annoying maggot squished on shoe person, you need to learn how to use full stops because that paragraph was rather confusing :(

So go get raped by your grandpa boyfriendYou didn't use a single period in that post. Would you like to point out to me where I lacked them?
Example.

You just called my girlfriend slow.

However, she is one of the most intelligent people on this site.Obviously not.

In short, you don't know him.Proof?
Personalities cannot be adequately applied over the web.And more proof?

Really, you all keep saying, "You can't..." or "It's not possible to...", but you offer no proof whatsoever. Is anyone going to give it to me or not?

~Maggot

[*Jess*]

I'm sorry, but if you want to successfully make your point stop needlessly offending people.

[God.]

Fuck you, who do you think you are? Judging Lucie like that is proof that you're an idiot.

I gave you the proof, but you chose to ignore most of my post. That was the proof, and you can't bring your self to respond to it because you'd have to admit I'm right.

Giving up would mean you have to admit you're living a dream that fails to live up to e-reality.

[Kate]

You didn't use a single period in that post. Would you like to point out to me where I lacked them?Obviously not.

~Maggot

Zomg, because it wasn't four lines long arsehole.

[Innamorata]

It is not possible to give physical evidence. While people might have met on the internet, decided they liked each other and then met up, you can't know that you truly like someone until you have met them face to face. Stop trying to insult my intelligence, I'm not the one going on a site where no one likes them, and then insulting all the other members. What a clever way to make friends.

[God.]

You assume that if someone disagrees with you, that they are wrong.

As you haven't even thought to consider the opinion of older and more experienced people than you, then there's no point in us bothering. I wish you all the luck in the world, because you'll bloody well need it.

[NewAbortion]

Fuck you, who do you think you are? Judging Lucie like that is proof that you're an idiot.And now you're judging me. Congratulations.

I gave you the proof, but you chose to ignore most of my post.No, I just saw no reason to respond to it, because all I could do is say you're wrong; I have nothing to prove you're wrong.
That was the proof, and you can't bring your self to respond to it because you'd have to admit I'm right.*sighs* Fine, you want me to respond? Here:
However, she is one of the most intelligent people on this site.In your opinion.
You made a poor judgement of her on here, which doesn't say much for your character judgement, so you being "in love" with your boyfriend means nothing.Again, in your opinion. Opinion doesn't equal proof.
You don't know what Love is.Proof?
You're just shouting at everyone because they disagree with you, so you can justify the relationship you have.No. I didn't shout at *Jess*, because, even though I disagreed with her, she was more logical about it than the rest of you. You can't say I'm shouting at everyone who disagrees with me.
At the end of the day, there's lots you don't know about him. You don't know how compatible you are living together, being in each others company, or how you even are in real life.I think I do.
I knew Lucie for years before I started going out with her. I thought I knew her well until I met her, at which point I realised that I didn't know her.Good for you?
It doesn't matter what the dictionary says, knowing someone isn't just about knowing them, but also about knowing how your personalities match up.So...the dictionary is wrong, and you're right? Hokay, then.

See, that's why I didn't respond. It's all just me disagreeing with you. There's no solid evidence or proof to prove any of those statements correct or incorrect (except the one about my yelling at everyone who disagrees with me).

Giving up would mean you have to admit you're living a dream that fails to live up to e-reality.That's nice.
I'm sorry, but if you want to successfully make your point stop needlessly offending people.I've made my point over and over again, but they still keep going on like I've not done so. I'm sick of being civil when no one is even listening to me, but rather is just blindly clinging to their own opinions, without allowing any traces of thoughts that they may be jumping to conclusions.

~Maggot

[NewAbortion]

Zomg, because it wasn't four lines long arsehole.I have no idea what the hell you're on about.
It is not possible to give physical evidence.Exactly. Thank you for proving me correct. Without proof, it is NOT a fact.
While people might have met on the internet, decided they liked each other and then met up, you can't know that you truly like someone until you have met them face to face.Eh, same shit I've addressed 93582309472390578293482390482390582340923 times.
Stop trying to insult my intelligence, I'm not the one going on a site where no one likes them, and then insulting all the other members. What a clever way to make friends.Who says I'm trying to make friends? Besides, enemies are far more entertaining.

~Maggot

[Innamorata]

So there is no point in coming on here. You go on a forum to make friends and talk to people. If you come on to make enemies, you end up getting banned for being a fucktard.

[Kate]

LOLz.

*Waves stiletto*

[God.]

Wait... where's your proof you're right.

Nobody is right here then, as we should agree to disagree.

In your opinion, you can be in love with someone you've never met.

In the opinion of many other people, you can't.

So, let's agree that what we are discussing aren't fact, they're opinions and thus, nobody is correct.

I would apologise for judging you, but you keep insulting the love of my life. Not cool.

[NewAbortion]

Wait... where's your proof you're right.Oh my.
I think we all agree that people fall in love in person. Therefore, without proof or evidence to suggest that it is impossible to do so online, there is no reason to believe so. I don't need proof, because my argument is what we all already know - people fall in love.

In your opinion, you can be in love with someone you've never met.According to the dictionary, I have met him.

So, let's agree that what we are discussing aren't fact, they're opinions and thus, nobody is correct.Do you believe the existence of love is an opinion or a fact? Because, as I just repeated, my argument is simply that people can fall in love.

So there is no point in coming on here. You go on a forum to make friends and talk to people. If you come on to make enemies, you end up getting banned for being a fucktard.I don't come to make enemies, I come to debate. I'm just saying I don't come to make friends.

~Maggot

[Kate]

Zomg.

Is it illegal to hurt maggots?

[Innamorata]

Nope, you can stick hooks through them.

[NewAbortion]

Zomg.

Is it illegal to hurt maggots?Yes and no.

~Maggot

[Kate]

Can we just stamp on her instead Luciee?

[God.]

I think we all agree that people fall in love in person. Therefore, without proof or evidence to suggest that it is impossible to do so online, there is no reason to believe so. I don't need proof, because my argument is what we all already know - people fall in love. ~Maggot

Yes you do.

Just because something isn't declared impossible, it doesn't mean it's proven.


Do you believe the existence of love is an opinion or a fact? Because, as I just repeated, my argument is simply that people can fall in love.

I believe that it is a fact, but your view of Love is your opinion, and it is the latter which you are putting forward.

Your argument is clearly that you can fall in love online, you've moved away from your original argument.

[Innamorata]

Sure :D


Can we just stamp on her instead Luciee?

[NewAbortion]

Yes you do.

Just because something isn't declared impossible, it doesn't mean it's proven.It is proven, though, that people fall in love. I do not need proof of that, and, as I said several times, my argument is that people can fall in love.

As I said before, I would not need proof to say that blacks can love just as whites can. Only if someone were to say they can't love as whites can, then they would need proof.

I believe that it is a fact, but your view of Love is your opinion, and it is the latter which you are putting forward.It is not my "view" of love. My "argument" is that I believe love exists. Your argument is that love exists, except for online.
Your argument is clearly that you can fall in love online, you've moved away from your original argument.I've not moved away, I've simplified.
Sure :DSo are y'all gonna get around to this anytime soon? I'm getting kinda tired of waiting. The anticipation is killing me.

~Maggot

[God.]

It is proven, though, that people fall in love. I do not need proof of that, and, as I said several times, my argument is that people can fall in love.

Whatever it is you say you've done,your argument has changed, and it is no longer that people can fall in love, it's that you can without meeting them.


As I said before, I would not need proof to say that blacks can love just as whites can. Only if someone were to say they can't love as whites can, then they would need proof.

Don't you hate the race card? The contextual background of those statements differ significantly.

That is saying it's impossible for a person to fall in love based on the person, wheras pur argument is that you can't fall in love with a person you haven't physically met.


It is not my "view" of love.

It is your view, which you are putting forward differently as an argument.


My "argument" is that I believe love exists. Your argument is that love exists, except for online.

I didn't say you can't fall in Love online. Hell I did. However, I met Lucie loads of times too. Our argument is that you can't fall in love with someone without having physically met them first.

[fraggled]

xD You lot are brutally crazy.

[Innamorata]

Rawr.

[black_sheep]

I really do believe that love can exist on the internet.
But can a relationship work?... I don't know. Example: I'm in a relationship with someone online. If, while at it, i went on a real relationship, i probably wouldn't tell my online bf/gf cause i wouldn't want to hurt them.
So you can't really know...

[Innamorata]

Cheating is not good.

[Pearson]

Work partnerships are no different

I stopped reading after that. You, sir, are very wrong/naive.

[Innamorata]

True, and it was confusing.


I stopped reading after that. You, sir, are very wrong/naive.

[Fez]

Cheating is not good.

It's not cheating if its online. everyone does it

[Innamorata]

Yes it fucking is cheating and only dickheads do it.

[God.]

It's not cheating if its online. everyone does it

I don't do it.

[gemsy]

I dont think that an actual relationship would work but sure you could like someone

[fraggled]

I stopped reading after that. You, sir, are very wrong/naive.

Says the kid who probably still lives with mum at 18, probably doesn't make more then $10 an hour, has no real business skills, acts like hes a god, but really is a twat, is probably gay because he wears shorts above his knees. :-\

[Leon]

is probably gay because he wears shorts above his knees. :-\Huh? What's gay about that.

Just because American's ironically have shorts that aren't that short.

[fraggled]

Don't Deny you're gayness Pearsons, we know its true.


http://photo.net/philip-greenspun/photos/pcd0155/gay-parade-20.4.jpg

[God.]

Seeing as $10 is about &#163;4.90, he probably does.

[God.]

Also, there's nothing wrong with being Gay.

[Innamorata]

Yup.

[fraggled]

No there isn't.

[tf_arl_90]

Don't Deny you're gayness Pearsons, we know its true.


http://photo.net/philip-greenspun/photos/pcd0155/gay-parade-20.4.jpg

The skates add a nice touch.

Anyway this has gotten kind of pointless, don't you think? No one's going to change anyone else's mind and it's just going in circles now.

[Kerry]

The skates do. He also has great legs. :O

[fraggled]

Would you guys stop hitting on the token gay guy :(, though I must admit, those skates (Roller Blades) are pretty cool.

[Pearson]

Says the kid who probably still lives with mum at 18, probably doesn't make more then $10 an hour, has no real business skills, acts like hes a god, but really is a twat, is probably gay because he wears shorts above his knees. :-\

Says the man who probably has never had a girlfriend - and if he did would ask for a monthly report - and pay her.

[Innamorata]

He does have a son, I don't think he magically appeared.

[God.]

This is most true.

Either way, this isn't a flaming thread.

So both of you, stop it.

[Pearson]

Didnt no that....but I wasnt being serious anyroad. I'll be serious though - I think he's a cunt.

[Innamorata]

Some could say the same about you, you should have your heads bashed together.

[Fez]

Just because American's ironically have shorts that aren't that short.

lol.. good thing

[Kerry]

Didnt no that....but I wasnt being serious anyroad. I'll be serious though - I think he's a cunt.
Do you realize that has made you look like one?
Don't judge people you don't know properly.

lol.. good thingI agree, those shorts were quite odd. :|

[Fez]

I agree, those shorts were quite odd. :|


the short shorts, or the American shorts? :O

[*Jess*]

Didnt no that....but I wasnt being serious anyroad. I'll be serious though - I think he's a cunt.

Good for you, you don't seem to know though that you are one for saying that, and arguing as if you're much better.
People have their own opinions. Yours isn't always the final one. So if people dont agree you dont need to call them nieve, you're not exactly a guru.

[Kerry]

the short shorts, or the American shorts? :OThe funny green ones on that dude.

[Pearson]

I don't no what to say, I'm shocked....do people on here not like me? Really?

[NewAbortion]

I don't no what to say, I'm shocked....do people on here not like me? Really?I can't imagine why THAT would be! :rolleyes:

~Maggot

[Kate]

I don't no what to say, I'm shocked....do people on here not like me? Really?

Nothing against you :/

[black_sheep]

Yes it fucking is cheating and only dickheads do it.

Yeah but you can't be loyal in an internet relationship for ever, that's what i'm saying. So what happens when you do find someone who's 3D?

[Innamorata]

You can be loyal if you care about them. I wouldn't stay in an internet relationship if I wasn't going to meet them though. If you find someone else, you do the decent thing and dump them.

[fraggled]

If you can't be loyal online, I'd hate to image how you are in person. Lack of loyalty in any spot is a weak ass person. Jesus I hate people who aren't loyal and genuine.

[Innamorata]

Um same here. Even if it does make me a hypocrite :/

[God.]

>.<

[Fez]

If you can't be loyal online, I'd hate to image how you are in person. Lack of loyalty in any spot is a weak ass person. Jesus I hate people who aren't loyal and genuine.


cuz no one gets to love the person on the other line to really care if you hurt them or not by cheating. thats why dating online (imo) is just a fantasy.
you might be attrated to them, be friends. but not date. seriously, you dont know how the other person really is.

[God.]

bullshit.

[NewAbortion]

Yeah but you can't be loyal in an internet relationship for ever, that's what i'm saying. So what happens when you do find someone who's 3D?I've been loyal to my boyfriend for 8 and a half months (9 and a half, actually). It's entirely possible to be loyal to someone online.
If you can't be loyal online, I'd hate to image how you are in person. Lack of loyalty in any spot is a weak ass person. Jesus I hate people who aren't loyal and genuine.Seconded.

~Maggot

[sabrina]

it's hard to decide, unless you've experienced it before.