Emo....just an excuse for kids to cry??

[random-lemons]

I have this on going argument with people so i thought i'd carry it on in here.... I personally think "emo" kids are stupid, its just a label they call themselves which give them an excuse to cry! They moan about things which arn't important and "emotional rock" is just pathetic....
Im sure im going to get abuse for posting this thread but to be honest...i dont care!

[Jessicar]

A LOT of people say this. but nah, i dont think so.
You can say things similar about any subculture.
not all emos are constantly crying. its just a different style with its own type of music.

[Entice]

My friends Emo and she doesnt get all emotional...and wear the "typical" emo dress wear.
Thats like saying everyone who likes rnb, like walk around like wannabe gangtaz

[fcuk4forest]

Can someone give me an example of an 'emo' band please?

[Kiss.Me.I'm.Contagious]

Can someone give me an example of an 'emo' band please?

Bright Eyes, From First To Last, Funeral For a Friend, i'm not always crying, i cry when i have a reason to cry and i don't moan about things that aren't important so that shows you're wrong about emo people.

[fcuk4forest]

Never heard of any of them.

I'll stick to me indie thanks.

[Kiss.Me.I'm.Contagious]

Lol, very good bands..FFTL <3.

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

It's not just an excuse to cry.


Not all emo's are lame spoiled kids who's life is the shit because their parents won't buy them a new porche. I get labled emo because of the music I listen to and the way I dress.

I'm actually a very cheerful person.

[Kiss.Me.I'm.Contagious]

It's not just an excuse to cry.


Not all emo's are lame spoiled kids who's life is the shit because their parents won't buy them a new porche. I get labled emo because of the music I listen to and the way I dress.

I'm actually a very cheerful person.

Same as me.

[D3c3p7ioN]

I have some emo girls in my art class and they're hot so i dont care anymore :D
Plus they are funny :) cheerful.

[*fender.chiq*]

I'm kind of emo in some respects - the way I dress, some of the music I listen to.. etc.

I'm mostly a very happy person and like making other people laugh. It's not all stereotypical about the raz0r blades and crying. Some people use the stereotypical emo thing to the extremeties as with everything else. I think this strengthens the bond between the stereotypical emo figure, and the reality of emo.

Oh yeah, and some emo guys are soooo hot :D

[Jessicar]

Im same as nat.
some of the music i listen to is quite emo. and the way i dress at times....
and some emo guys are really hot :D

[pk ben]

i think emos are pathetic to be honest, its all attetion seeking, and to be frank (who's frank...?) the ones who say theyre emo but then contradict by saying they dont cry and dont cut themselves and all the other crap, well theyre just frauds! wanabee emos!

heres my argument against them, if a convo with someone who disagreed with the following statement in my screen name:
"holy mother of god; its an emo, they totally suck ass...run for the hills!"

from the convo:
i said: wats cool bout growing a fringe longer than the rest of the hair and brushing it casually to the side, then acting depressed all the time, wearing makeup, thinking self-harm is cool, getting off with guys and being the same as every mini-alt kid everywhere; all just to build up an image which they think is cool and want others to think is cool?

[BleedBlack]

i think emos are pathetic to be honest, its all attetion seeking, and to be frank (who's frank...?) the ones who say theyre emo but then contradict by saying they dont cry and dont cut themselves and all the other crap, well theyre just frauds! wanabee emos!

heres my argument against them, if a convo with someone who disagreed with the following statement in my screen name:
"holy mother of god; its an emo, they totally suck ass...run for the hills!"

from the convo:
i said: wats cool bout growing a fringe longer than the rest of the hair and brushing it casually to the side, then acting depressed all the time, wearing makeup, thinking self-harm is cool, getting off with guys and being the same as every mini-alt kid everywhere; all just to build up an image which they think is cool and want others to think is cool?

heh, good argument! well, u made some good points & i agree with everything u just said!

but i dont think the type of music u listen to should classify u as that sort of person. i LOVE 80's music, so what is that ment to make me? i know alot of people who r really into punk music but are far from bein 'punk'

[Mamfy]

My brother calls me emo but I'm not the typical emo I guess. It's just because of the music I listen to!

I don't think all emos cut themself, I certainly don't becuase it doesn't get you anywhere but in pain! I don't cry at every little detail, I cry when it is necessary, and I don't moan about everything because you shouldn't moan about something that can't be fixed! I am normally a really bubbly person who likes to make people happy and make them laugh!

Just because the music I listen to is 'emo' doesn't mean I am the stereotypical emo dude!

[*fender.chiq*]

Gah. So I'm a 'fraud emo' because I dress simelarly to some of the emo fashion and listen to emo-tional music, yet don't do self harm, massive fringes or cry at everything?

I don't do self harm because it's silly. It's all pain and no gain. I'm not depressive so I have no need to release my anger and sadness in myself. Cutting my wrists would not solve any of my worries, I'm clever enough to know that.

My hair style is how I want it to be. I don't grow my fringe 'long' or pointy over one eye because that's not how I want my hair. Hair is a statement about that person, their personality and their style. Simple as.

I don't cry. Ever. Because for some reason I created a kind of emotional block inside myself. I can't cry.

So I'm not a stereotypical emo. I'm a mixture of things. But I don't go around telling people how much I cut my arms and cry and show off about it. People who do that are more likely to be the 'fraud emo' because they're most probably doing it for attention - And that's pathetic in my opinion.

[random-lemons]

Well...didnt think this would get into such a heated arguement. But being "emo" is just another craze...i listen to funeral for a friend etc but i dont feel the need to label myself! "Oh im emo but not your typical emo" It's all crap!

[Mamfy]

Nat I totally agree with you!

Cutting yourself shows you have a serious problem but don't know how to cope with it! There are so many other ways of coping with things, and cutting yourzself is not an option for me.

I don't wear my hair with a massive fringe across my face because that is not my style, it is not me. I like my hair how it is, and I wouldn't change it.

I cry when I feel the need to cry, Not over stupid little petty things. Therefore I am emotional but not so emotional that the slightest thing would set me off.

[Entice]

Well...didnt think this would get into such a heated arguement. But being "emo" is just another craze...i listen to funeral for a friend etc but i dont feel the need to label myself! "Oh im emo but not your typical emo" It's all crap!

It's not all crap.
Firstly everyone who listens to that music you seem to be classifying as an Emo.
Thats generalizing, like saying all people in Aus talk like Steve Erwin.
We dont.
Everyone who listens to pop is therfore a cheerleader queen bee wannabe
Rnb is for all black-wannabees
Country...lets not even go there.
You cant label people by what music they listen to.

(Edit: I cant spell)

[random-lemons]

Im not just sterotyping emo people, but it is just the latest thing to be into. Obviously you guys wouldnt agree because you've all fallen for it.

[*fender.chiq*]

Emos have been around for years. It's only now it's becoming so popular because of the 'pop' music scene.

Pop isn't all that crap. There's a lot of bands there too. Because they're promoting themselves, more people like them - hence more 'emos' or whatever.

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

Emo started in the early 80's...I think...not positive on that.


Emo's acutally used to be the underground punk kids. If you listen to some of the early emo stuff, it's really heavy. People keep changing the meaning of it, though.

[Patriot1776]

I believe it actually started in the very late 70's (78-79) Often the early 80's was built upon things that hadn't quite made it in the late 70's but had a sudden surge of popularity during that 80's.

I am not absolutely sure though.

[random-lemons]

Initially, "emo" was an abbreviation for "emocore", short for "emotive hardcore", and was used to describe the music of the mid-1980's. But as you can tell, the word "emo" is now used to describe less hardcore music because pansys call them themselves "emo" and listen to The Used... the word now, has a slighty different meaning which isnt a good thing!

[Jessicar]

I believe it actually started in the very late 70's (78-79) Often the early 80's was built upon things that hadn't quite made it in the late 70's but had a sudden surge of popularity during that 80's.

I am not absolutely sure though.
I think your right

[Patriot1776]

Yeah. I remember now that Apocalypse Now has that one song towards the beginning. I looked up the song and it was categorized as Emo

[pk ben]

Gah. So I'm a 'fraud emo' because I dress simelarly to some of the emo fashion and listen to emo-tional music, yet don't do self harm, massive fringes or cry at everything?

youre only an emo-fraud if you actually claim to be an emo, but really arent, and its just stupid. so are you? do you label yourself as one of them? do you say youre an emo?



but i dont think the type of music u listen to should classify u as that sort of person. i LOVE 80's music, so what is that ment to make me? i know alot of people who r really into punk music but are far from bein 'punk'


very true.

to name a few bands/artists i like:
The Sex Pistols (real punk)
KoRn (heavy (nu) metal - screamy)
The Beatles (60s rock n roll)
NWA (80s black gangsta rap)
Faithless (modern day dance)
Funeral For A Friend (emo, i guess...)
The Beach Boys (60s surfer rock n roll)
System Of A Down (heavy (nu) metal - screamy)
Blink 182 (punk rock)
Iron Maiden (old heavy metal)
50 Cent (modern day gangsta rap)
Simple Plan (puffy punk rock)

and i cant exactly fit in with all those stereotypes all at once (well i could never fit in with NWA lol :P)

just cos i like ffaf dont mean i slit my wrists.
just cos i like the sex pistols dont mean i wear leather and studs and have a mohawk.
just cos i like soad dont mean im a scary goth
just cos i like nwa dont mean i go round killing whites cos theyre white

i like music if i like it. if i dont like sumat, i just dont. i dont dress like these bands just cos they do, i wear watever i feel like, or is appropriate for wat im doing.

[ReAnImAtEd]

for gods sake....emo is short for 'emotional hardcore' which is the genre of music....a person who is sed to be emo is sum1 who listens to emotional hardcore and wears clothes that follow the fashion that the genre brings.....not the YOUR EMO IF U SELF HARM bullshit! its about the fashion in the music NOT the emotional stability of a person.

[D3c3p7ioN]

Why can't we all get along.

[Entice]

Im not just sterotyping emo people, but it is just the latest thing to be into. Obviously you guys wouldnt agree because you've all fallen for it.

Well leave them alone, u cant judge people by what they listen to, and u generalized them. Not all people who listen to emo people dress like billie joe and walk around crying about how their life is shit.

[Mamfy]

Too true, everyone is different, and if they're all happy, why knock them?!

[pk ben]

theyre not happy! theyre depressed! its good for their image!

[*fender.chiq*]

*kicks Ben*

Ya silly billy, it's all going to go off again now! Lol

[BleedBlack]

oh well, we all got differnt views on this, we arn't all just gonna agree on 1 thing are we.

i just think that if people like listening to emo music & like to dress like it, why do they label themselves as 'emo's'. but then you go on to say 'emo's cry & cut themselves, but i dont do that' well if you dont do that, why call yourself 'emo' in the first place?!
(i don't think i could have used the word 'emo' once more in that sentance lol)

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

Disclaimer: In no way am I an emo hater, but this was way too funny not to post.





"I wonder when people will realize that the "scene" has become homogeneous. It's full of 14 year old girls with uneven bangs,
black and white striped shirts, and tattered low-top black Chuck Taylor’s, who swoon over homosexual kissing and pathetic
whiny lyrics and overuse the symbols.
Their favorite quote is, invariably, "The truth is you could slit my throat and with my one last gasping breath I'd apologize for
bleeding on your shirt" because it like, so totally describes their relationship with that one HAWT sophomore who totally
ripped their hearts out when they were like, SO in love with him.
Their favorite type of music is, of course, "emo, screamo, and hardcore", three terms which, in their minds, invariably include
the bands Taking Back Sunday, Thrice, and Hawthorne Heights.
Their AIM screennames often include x's, the words "electrikk", "disaster", or some play on their favorite song from their
favorite band, you know, the one they saw on MTV like a couple times, but shouldn't be on MTV because they're like, way too
emo for that.
They take hundreds of black and white pictures with way too much contrast of themselves looking plaintively down at the
ground, pointing a gun made of their fingers at their heads, or kissing the camera while displaying their expert application of
lip gloss around their labret piercing and the thick dark eyeliner that circles their eyes.
They embrace the "dork" that is inside their polished, fashionable exteriors by writing in their LiveJournals or Xangas about
how they and their friends had an 'N Sync sing-a-long at one of their sleepovers because, remember, 'N Sync is soooo not
popular anymore and they like, sooo wouldn't follow any of the fads of today, so they embrace the fads of yesterday.
They adore "retro fashion", meaning anything from the 80's, because they totally used to wear neon colors and big beaded
bracelets, even though they were born in, at the earliest, 1988 and remember jack shit about the fashion and culture of the
80's.
It's full of "emo boys" who often are difficult to differentiate from "emo girls", who have meaningless tattoos even though
they're 15, smoke a lot of cigarettes, drink a lot of hard liquor, and are in some shitty band that plays a couple of gigs in
someone's basement because they're "too cool to go mainstream" when really, they just suck.
They weigh roughly 90 pounds, wear girls' jeans that hug their asses in just the right places, belts buckled somewhere around
the side of their right leg, tight striped 80's style polo shirts or band t-shirts, and skater shoes, even though they don't skate
because that's soooo lame.
They write awful poetry about the dark abyss of their souls and how the gun is pointed at their heads, the trigger poised to
blast away the bloody memories of a failed romance. They cried when Blink-182 broke up, and they have a secret
obsession with Avril Lavigne because, like, she really IS kinda hot even though her music totally sucks.
They spend more time at the mirror than their female counterparts do, making sure that the long black shock of hair at the front
of their heads lies covering one eye just so, that their lip piercing is perfectly placed so that it looks hot when they kiss other
boys, that their pants are the right degree of tightness so as not to exude gayness.
Emo boys and girls often use the suffix "Xcore" to describe themselves, using a number of adjectives or nouns to accomplish
this task. This is a play off hardcore music, or "hXc". Some of these descriptive words include "fashionXcore", "retroXcore", or
even "yournamehereXcore."
This way of speaking is retarded or nonsensical to everyone else except those "in the scene", but it totally doesn't matter
because they're too nonconformistXcore for anyone to truly understand their "scene".
They couldn't name a Sunny Day Real Estate or Rites of Spring song if it came up and bit them on their Gap Jeans-clad
asses, and they claim to like the Smiths because Jesse Lacey of Brand New said they were cool.
Sure, they listen to some new "hardcore" bands, but they're all pretty much the same five bands:
1. Taking Back Sunday
2. Senses Fail
3. Thrice
4. Hawthorne Heights
5. Story of the Year
To these promising young firecrackers, music takes a backseat to fashion in their scene of choice.
Emo girls just want to kiss emo boys, emo boys just want to kiss other emo boys, and they all want to wear tight pants and
take lots of pictures of themselves. End of story. Because honestly? It's electrikk!"

[BleedBlack]

LMAO...that's gold. haha.

[Mamfy]

OMFG N00b tbh lmao HAHA:P

( I don't regularly talk like this:P)

[ReAnImAtEd]

^oh crap im emo lol

[*fender.chiq*]

LMFAO.

Jeez. Looks like I'm emo boy =|

[BleedBlack]

i came across this and felt it just fit in with the topic...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/luvrgurl/050.jpg

[kattylover]

I have a guy friend who is in an Emo band. He doesn't cry or get emotional about anything. He is nice and also friendly. And he is good at writing lyrics.

[pk ben]

my bro is into this band called aiden, he showed me their videos n they all wear makeup n one of em has blood smouthered round his mouth. they have "burn your friends" written on the amps and the songs are about cutting yourself and bleeding n stuff. scary n crazy n stupid. also in the vid they have a model face crying blood.

[*fender.chiq*]

Bob'll go mad if he sees that bisexual emo pic.. I think it'll be removed tbh.

And Ben, what you're describing.. Isn't stereotypical emo. It's more satanic, gothic and death obsessive. Emo's one if the gothic style ways, but suddenly anything and everything is labelled 'emo'.

Has no one noticed? It's exactly the same as the whole 'chav' shit. Everything remotely 'chavvy' is labelled, even if it isn't. The people are aswell. I mean, yes, I wouldn't be seen dead wearing a pair of trackie bottoms, but they're all labelled 'chavwear' too.

Given time this whole thing with most probably blow over. All those 'stereotypical' emo kids will move onto the next craze so they can be in with the stereotyped crowd. You'll find that every subculture has stereotypical values, but the people in that subculture aren't neccessarily like that. The same is with emo, like all the rest. However, there's the select few who dwell on the stereotypical stuff and think they're cool, when infect, they're just making people hate them, and making themselves look like idiots.

[LittleLilly]

I get labled 'emo' because I'm emotional and I listen to My Chemical Romance, The Used, Jimmy Eats World and Funeral For A Friend. It really makes no sense, actually. But anyway, I don't think that emo is just an excuse to cry, I mean, not all emo's are like that. There are some wannabes that don't even know what emo is, but they're not all like that

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

Gah! MCR, The Used, Jimmy Eat World....None of those bands are emo. They're pop. Plain and simple...and to be honest, MCR and The Used are practically the same band. I like Jimmy Eat World, but they're not emo. No.

I hate that pop/emo wannabe/punk shit. All they are are fads. I cannot wait till this one goes out. It'll be like tamagacis or pogs. It'll die eventually.

[LittleLilly]

Gah! MCR, The Used, Jimmy Eat World....None of those bands are emo. They're pop. Plain and simple...and to be honest, MCR and The Used are practically the same band. I like Jimmy Eat World, but they're not emo. No.

I hate that pop/emo wannabe/punk shit. All they are are fads. I cannot wait till this one goes out. It'll be like tamagacis or pogs. It'll die eventually.
I'm not saying that they're emo, but ome kids in my street do and call me names and stuff.

[Mamfy]

It's not fair for them to tease you about being emo! Lol! And JEW Isn't pop, but it different songs are classed as different genres so I wouldn't know.

Stereotypers suck....thats it.

[ReAnImAtEd]

Gah! MCR, The Used, Jimmy Eat World....None of those bands are emo. They're pop. Plain and simple...and to be honest, MCR and The Used are practically the same band. I like Jimmy Eat World, but they're not emo. No.

I hate that pop/emo wannabe/punk shit. All they are are fads. I cannot wait till this one goes out. It'll be like tamagacis or pogs. It'll die eventually.

its quite funny how little u know, and how shallow and narrow minded you are!!

[random-lemons]

its quite funny how little u know, and how shallow and narrow minded you are!!

Well said.

(Didn't think this thread would pick up again...)

[bambizzle]

jesus, reading this youd think emos were worse than chavs

[xXxI.Got.Them.Emo.EyesxXx]

its quite funny how little u know, and how shallow and narrow minded you are!!


I am narrow minded when it comes to something I'm passionate about. I admit to it. I have NO shame saying that I am...but I'm not shallow...and believe it or not, I do have a pretty good grasp on what I'm talking about.

Look up the true definition of emo. You'll see what I mean. Emo isn't short for emotional...it's short for emotive-hardcore. A heavy type of punk with deep lyrics. It started in the early 80's and stayed underground for years. It's not this shitty acoustic stuff, or these bands who wear more makeup than my grandmother.

Don't lecture me on something I've been involved with for the past 4 years.

[bambizzle]

this is quite a stupid argument really. the way i see it, whatever emo means or used to mean is not important. why your arguing over something which means so little is something ill never understand

[Pearson]

Moshes are the worst. Its just posh kids who want to be cool and they think being a moshes cool so they do that.

[ReAnImAtEd]

I am narrow minded when it comes to something I'm passionate about.

y are you so passionate on stereotyping something and then saying you hate it...if thats wot ur passionate about then i think you need a new hobbie

[Jessicar]

Moshes are the worst. Its just posh kids who want to be cool and they think being a moshes cool so they do that. I get called a mosher though
But to be honest, im not one. Im just someone who likes the so called "mosher" genre of music, and I go to gigs and play guitar and wear some black and stuff. But I listen to all sorts of music! I go to gigs coz they are great places to meet people, have a drink and a bit of fun and listen to bands play (the local ones anyway) and I play guitar because I have 2 guitars, I love guitars and music, and I have played since I was 8.
I dont like the stereotype "mosher". It fits too much of a wide range of people.
Anyone who listens to rock/punk or anything like that is classed as a mosher, and thats a lot of people. So called "moshers" who go along with that type of stereotype call anyone who isnt a "mosher" a "chav", and anyone who is a so called "chav" labels anyone else as a "mosher.
it doesnt make a lot of sense to me. Because its just labelling people, and splitting them up into 2 different groups who will never get along.
Im not being mean or calling you a chav or anything, i just hate the word "mosher"

[iloveroddy]

now really nto all emos are like that they are made out to be just because they have more emotions or listen to different music .. im an emo and im proud of it ...

im an emo and proud of it and i dont cry all the time .. just because we have a more emotion intake to things dont mean we are always cryin jee xxx

[Jessicar]

Exactly iloveroddy.
emo isnt someone who cries all the time.
Its just a stereotype that stands for the music they listen to.

[bambizzle]

i agree, you should always be proud of who you are no matter what people say

[danster73]

being called an emo is basically catorgorising people which is wrong. The hole goth, greebo chav and emo thing is wrong. It causes bullying and many people to get upset if they dont belong to a group.

[blacklollysrule]

Moshes are the worst. Its just posh kids who want to be cool and they think being a moshes cool so they do that.

Those are mini moshas everybody goes thru that stage at one point its a journey to discovering urself lol

[Jessicar]

Im having a conversation with an emo guy right now.
Hes cheerful and friendly, and I have made pretty good friends with him already, and so has nat, we havent spoken to him for long. Only for the past couple of weeks have we got to know him.
He himself says hes an emo, but he doesnt cry, he doesnt look depressed, he doesnt wear makeup. And he hates how every emo is hated just coz there are some dick heads out there who follow the emo stereotype.
Hes just liek the rest of us, and he hardly ever cries. Cept once a few weeks ago, but i think i know why, and its understandable that anyone would cry over something like that.

[bambizzle]

being called an emo is basically catorgorising people which is wrong. The hole goth, greebo chav and emo thing is wrong. It causes bullying and many people to get upset if they dont belong to a group.

what is greebo ? seriously how do you get categorised as a greebo ive never known

[Jessicar]

Iv never heard of a greebo :S

[*fender.chiq*]

Greebo/Greeb is a word for 'mosher' I think. But I think it's Southern..

[bambizzle]

that makes enough sense

[iloveroddy]

Emos dont just cut themselves .. my cousin is a complete goth andhe was talkin about music he listens to that they were goin to sell razors with their cd's because there songs where so depressing andpeople where killing themselves anyways ... so its not just "emo"

Emer hearts Roddy .. XxXxX

[iloveroddy]

well then "i got them emo eyes .. " tell me what yuot hink is em o .. im emo nd i listen to that .. are you the only emo thern tell us what yuor emo is .. !!!

[*Jess*]

Hers is a different type of emo.
Its the original type. Its ok to be the "new type". its a free country! people can dress how they like and should still be accepted. It really bugs me when people cant accept other people if they are a decent person just for the way they dress or the music they listen to. But the emo she is on about is the original one. Which dont seem to be anything like the new emo...

[Haunting_Echoes]

Emo is subjective, it is different to every person. In my eyes, emo is just a word, meaning emotional. But I also know emo music to as a general rule be about having someone lose you. And if I'm honest, I think that the funniest thing about emo music, is something my friend and I came up with when people were arguing about it one day, and it was basically this:
"This was originally going to be some pathetic poem about how everyone hates me and I wish I was dead, but my mate Brian had a guitar."
I am by no means saying that this is a definition of emo, because as I said emo is subjective, what I think is not what most of you will think.

[iloveroddy]

its not like people laugh at metal heads .. its emos because they have more emotion and listen to more than screaming .. my big brother has metal stuff drummed into my head but i still lisen to other stuff .. emos dont just right poems or songs they have a life like everyone else so really lay of its gettin a tad gay now .. *rolls eyes*

"...he's taking the self esteem from his beautiful queen..."

[*Jess*]

I dont think people should laugh at them. If its what they want to be, then its up to them! It doesnt make them a bad person or anything. Im slightly emo I guess. People would say im a bit like that. Im just not fully like that.
I have nothing against them. Most of the time i stick up for them. Who should be hated for the way they dress and what they listen to as long as they are decent.
If you look around, Iv got loads of posts like this. =P *power to the emos!*


ps: Besides, ithinkemoguysarejustabitfeckinghotttt

[iloveroddy]

*jess* i know they are hooootttttttttt jeese .. some metal heads are hot too but not so much but roddy is ...

[Haunting_Echoes]

Uhm okay, welcome to me not judging emo's. My fiance used to be a major league emo, he's still somewhat emo, I used to be pretty bad, I'm not as bad now. So yeah, welcome to the joke there. It something me and my friend came up to make fun of extreme emo. As in cutters. And yes, I can make fun of that if I so desire. I can make comments on it.
As I say emo is subjective I'm not defining it, nor would I ever try to, thought I can define the word as emotional, because that is what it means. Take it how you will. But my experience in the matter does allow me to say things like that.

[*Jess*]

*whispers*
Dont say anything, but leeds station was full of them today =O
We were waiting for *cough* someone, and we sat on the floor, and had a lovely view of some of them in front
*stops whispering and drinks lucozade*

[iloveroddy]

aww really .. *whispers back* but people you have to see Roddy .. no emo but damn fine .. i like looking around for hot boys hehe .. *gets angry* you may comment on it but make fun of it and comment on it is to complete opposite things .. so really it does mean emotional .. and saying extreme emo could include me so your "comment" is actually making fun of me and most of my frtiends ........

[iloveroddy]

after i get angry goes to haunted person .. :S

[*Jess*]

Haha, how random. But dont worry about it. Everyone has a thing about being against something. Dont let it get you down. Its nothing personal on you, and i can see it could be a bit offensive, just dont let it worry you :)

[Haunting_Echoes]

That is not my fault, someone will always take offence from some comments, it's how life is. So blame me all you like, hate me all you like, it will have no impact, and it will not change what I think or feel. And I have every right to make fun of or comment on emo. I know what it is like, and I know what it is like to escape from the world of severe emo. I have. And you know what, it just shows character that I can look back on my mistake and laugh. I know what it's like to see someone suffer from extreme depression, deep emo. And I also know that my being able to joke about it helped. And I am not saying that it would help everyone, but I am speaking from my own personal experiences.

[iloveroddy]

you know what .. think what you want .. i am what i am and i very proud .. not happy proud ..

[iloveroddy]

**not happy ... proud ...

[Haunting_Echoes]

I will, thank you. I am not trying to tell you what you are, nor do I wish to. I am merely making the statement.

[iloveroddy]

i didnt get from your comment you were telling me what i am although .. it did kind of make out i was a depressed typical emo ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

No, that would be the people who think it's cool to be emo, because they do not understand, they just think emo is all about the cutting and things like that. I understand emo. Depression is a seperate thing.

[iloveroddy]

well im nto into all that cuttin and stuff .. no point .. why hurt yourself when you have enemies around you ..
.. im really not that horrible ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

I was... I used to hurt myself a lot, I used to consciously go out and get into fights just so I could hurt. I still do hurt myself, but I generally don't mean to. It's horrible, and I certainly never wish it on you. It's not an experience I would wish on people. Not when it can be so hard to stop.

[iloveroddy]

yeah i know .. *hugs* i've always been more of a pill popper .. and drinkin too much and stuff .. i had been on the verge on doing myself in when my boyfriend walked in and caught me .. hes nto my boyfriend now .. we is just good friends and he still keeps and eye on me ..

[iloveroddy]

gettin the way you were mustnt of been very pretty .. *sobs* i hope you quit soon ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah, it's nice to have someone who cares. I have never taken pills or drank alcohol in my life, so that would not have been an option for me, but I know what itt can be like... I only stopped really because of my fiance (then friend) because he cared so much, and he used to do the same. But we sort of came to an agreement that we would both stop for each-other... And we have.... Some things are too precious to risk something like that on. It's nice to know someone cares, because nobody even knew I was how I was before my fiance... He got through walls nobody, not even my parents or closest friends could break down.

[~*~emolover~*~]

i don't agree with you there at all, some emos are stupid yeh and maybe some cry all the time but doesnt mean that they are all the same, thats just catogiesing people to be like others but thats just not always the case. your free to ahve your own opion of people thou but maybe u should get to know a few emos b4 judgin them in general

[Haunting_Echoes]

Unfortunatly though, emo has become a fashion trend and not a state of mind now, it's not about being in touch with your emotions any more. It's about wearing converse and tight jeans..... That is the sad fact, people now either think of that when they hear emo, or they think of someone bi-polar or manicly depressed who cuts all the time and wishes they were dead.... I'm not saying that is right, but in this day and age, that is what emo has come to mean, it's no longer to do with emotions, so much as those two things. I also happen to know a few emo's... some are just in for that fashion trend and such, but some are truly in touch with their emotions, and they just wear the clothes because they like the style.

[iloveroddy]

yeah people do care .. my big brother hates me doin it and he has helped me soo much i couldnt leave now i love him too much hes like my best friend but all my close friends are takin it hard to like.. people will always be there to talk to you and help you .. i've learned that ..

i heart roddy ...

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah, and that's exactly the kind of thing you need. Just someone to care enough to want you to stop. You can be yourself when you're not hiding so much.

[iloveroddy]

yeah i supose .. but hiding is all i can do .. i have no condidence, self-esteem if you meet me i seem ,lively and stuff but its alll forward just so people think im ok .. ill bottle it up ill be fine ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

I still hide behind a lot of stuff. I'm not always me. But I let someone in, and that's what made the difference, if you let one person you trust in, you've got more confidence than you realise. It takes a lot of guts to allow someone into your life when you're down, or you just want things to stop, and not a lot of people realise that. It's not easy, but you just have to go with the flow. You're stronger than you realise. I used to and still do get bullied a lot over my being British and living in Ireland, and I used to just let it happen, it's as soon as you stop allowing them to be right, as soon as you stop allowing things like that to be right, that things get better. You have something some of your friends don't, experience, you know what it feels like to be you, to wish you weren't real, you know what it's like to wish you were dead, and you came through it, and in your case, that has made you stronger, you may not see it but it's true. There are good times and bad, and you came through some very hard times and you're still fighting, you're more confident than you realise. You just have to see it is all.

[iloveroddy]

yeah i supose i ahve come through hard times .. very hard times .. but i know i will always have my friends and my big brother .. i know what its ,like to be me and at the moment its to so good but its gettin better as my friends have now realized somethign was rong .. so hopefully ill nto want to die adn i wont cry so much .. ill be my normal happy and giddy perosn .. thanks .. and i think you should help yuorself with your advice to .. if you already havent ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah, I have. Times can suck sometimes but they always get better.... You just have to have patience.

[iloveroddy]

yeah i will .. and i hope .. thanks .. i just have to catch myself on .. *tear*

[Haunting_Echoes]

Don't worry about it. Just sit back and let the times roll....

[iloveroddy]

i will .. its hard though .. i also need to forget about what other people tyhink about me ...

[Haunting_Echoes]

You're your own person, nobody else has a right to judge you. If people think they are better than you they aren't worth it... Dare to be different.

[iloveroddy]

hehe .. i am my own person but i feel like everyonr is better and prettier and .. they dont have a right tio judge me but im sure people do .. like they do everyone .. none of my friends think they are better thasn me .. if i was different i'd get looks and i hater people looking at me as it is ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah... I actually have profiles on so many sites, and the about me stuff is always strange, I kinda take my frustration out on random people, and it makes me feel better for people I don't know to understand who I am... you know. It's one of those things, if you can get it out there, it's less worrying in practice. I mean I wish I was pretty like my friends are, so I say it in profiles, and it doesn't bother me so much.

[iloveroddy]

himmmmmm .. i think i know what you mean and i tihnk you pobably are as pretty as them .. yeah i noticede you take frustrration out on random people .. i think i was a coming victim ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

I have a very short temper sometimes, unfortunatly, but I tend to keep it pretty much under control on forums, it's chat servers where you have to look out for me. Then I get vicious.

[iloveroddy]

ahaha yeah ill look out for yuo lol .. i have s short temper to im one of them people that when yuor in a bad mood everything anyone does annoys you especialy arch enemies ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah, I know that feeling. But I'm not too bad as long as you don't piss me off. And when you get to know me, I'm pretty alright...

[iloveroddy]

yeah you seem great now after we got past the commentin stage lol .. im glad we past that i seem to have got to know a bit of your sweet side ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

You've certainly seen a happier side of me. I'm not always a cantankerous bitch like some people think.

[iloveroddy]

yeah your a bit like me then you can be a big bitch when you want to be lol .. which is me most of them time ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah pretty much. But around the right types of people. I'm fine, you know, just a nice person happy-go-lucky sometimes.

[iloveroddy]

yeah im really really nice around people i like lol .. im like mulitple personalities lol .. but you know im ok when you get to know me ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yep. Sounds familiar. Some people you're comfortable enough around to be yourself.

[iloveroddy]

yeah i know what you mean ill be really bad tonight because ill be with people i dont know out the town .. but ill stick with my friends and ill be fine .. im comfy with my friends but there is some friends your really comfy with and dont care what you do infront of them because you can laugh it off with them lol ..

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yep. It's a whole lot easier that way. Comfort zone and all that.

[iloveroddy]

yeah i know lol .. dreading loads of people being there tonight ..

[*Jess*]

Im kinda the same. But if someones there i dont like or dont know ill just go really quiet and wont talk.

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah. A lot of people do. And sometimes, if I'm honest it's for the best.. sometimes the people may be the wrong kind to get in with..

[*Jess*]

Yeah I get what ya mean.
But with someone i dont know much, they may be a really nice person but i just go deadly quiet. I dont get past that stage for a while. im a bit shy.

[Haunting_Echoes]

Yeah. I can be too. Not that people notice considering how hyper I can be when I want to... I'm unbelievably giddy sometimes.

[*Jess*]

Oh god...
Im same.
Today i was rather hyper, and had bursts of laughter at random points. And a guy who goes to school who we havent really met in person before but speak to a lot on msn and myspace, and he went past like :) to me and my friend, and i did a random "pppppppppppppppppppppp" noise (blowing air out of mouth closed tight, if you know what i mean. like when you blow your cheeks full of air and then squeeze em and it goes ppppppppppp) and he must think i was laughing at him now. lol. whoops.

[Haunting_Echoes]

Oh well. It happens. I love being hyper, because I'm usually such a serious nd violent person it disturbs my friends.

[Brianna.]

http://content.ytmnd.com//116000/116306/sound.mp3



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I had to post this.


Oh my god.

[Mamfy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Oh

My

Feck

That's funneh:D

[*Jess*]

Oooooooooooooooh the adam and andrew song!
it rocks, haha.

[Bob!]

Lmao Bri, seen loads o ytmnds with that on.

Hell u seen the emo oranges and emo darth vader?

Portrays em really well I think lol :D

[~Wayne~]

ooo wheres the orange and darth vader Bob? xD

[deprived1]

i dont really c nething wrong with emo ppl. the only ones i have a problem with r the ones who use it as an excuse to get attention. most ppl dont label themselves that way though, its usually other ppl doing it. just my thoughts

[Bob!]

True, mostly it is other people who give the label, and thats why it is decided that all those traits are "emo".

Though whether they actually say it themselves or not, a hellova lot of them dress that way/do those things because they want to BE given a label or stand out/be recognised as part of a group.

Also here ya go duroxis.

Linky 1 (http://emooranges.ytmnd.com/) < Origional
Linky 2 (http://emoorangesmovie.ytmnd.com/) < LoL
Linky 3 (http://emodarthvader.ytmnd.com/) < Loffle!
Linky 4 (http://emomovie.ytmnd.com/) < Emo vs chav? That would top emo rangers, MAKE IT PLEASE!

Linky 4 (http://dbzsumo.ytmnd.com/) < Random but, ace.

Sorry for the rando spammin, well the rest is mostly on topic as well as my post, cept the sumos but that deserves credit anyways. :D

[lil_sawa]

i dont see the point in havin all these different labels for people, ya no, things like, goths, chavs, skaters, townies, emo's

its pathetic realli... all u end up with is people like chavs arguin and startin stuff with goths and things like that, i realli dont see the point... at the end of the day u are who you are and people shouldnt judge them for it.